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RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 05:47 PM)fredtoast Wrote: But you also create 7 new holes in our roster.
Right now I don't believe we even have 51 players under contract.
It's March 3rd. We haven't hit free agency or the draft.
Waynes has provided almost no return on the investment. Release him and apply the $10M cap savings to a replacement.
As you already stated, releasing Hopkins saves $6M which will offset the cost of his replacement.
When was the last time Gaillard, Spence, or Trayvon Williams were on the active roster? The Bengals can probably sign undrafted college free agents for about $200K less/player to replace them.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - mikey6866 - 03-03-2022
LT - Jonah Williams
LG - Jackson Carman
C - Bradley Bozeman
RG - James Daniels
RT - Morgan Moses
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - Soonerpeace - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 05:13 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Release Waynes, Hopkins, Perine, Gaillard, Spence, Williams, and Prince is another $22 million in cap space.
When you factor in the rookie contracts displacing players in the top 53, you'll get a little more cap space.
They are around $49M right now and can add another $22 million easily for $71M in cap space.
They will leave around 7 million back for in season stuff. No doubt they have to release Hopkins to go get 3 starters. But because of his versatility I doubt they do. Next year for sure. I could be wrong but I think getting 3 new starters in the OL for around 28 million won’t be the route
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 06:01 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: They will leave around 7 million back for in season stuff. No doubt they have to release Hopkins to go get 3 starters. But because of his versatility I doubt they do. Next year for sure. I could be wrong but I think getting 3 new starters in the OL for around 28 million won’t be the route
And 71-7=64.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 05:13 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Release Waynes, Hopkins, Perine, Gaillard, Spence, Williams, and Prince is another $22 million in cap space.
When you factor in the rookie contracts displacing players in the top 53, you'll get a little more cap space.
They are around $49M right now and can add another $22 million easily for $71M in cap space.
Exactly, we can make it work.
(03-03-2022, 05:40 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: This is the unlikely line up I'd like to see
LT J. Williams
LG L. Tomlinson
C Ben Jones
RG J. Daniels, not sure they can pry him away from Chicago, maybe A. Corbett if they can't
RT M. Moses
If PFF's contract projections hold true, the Bengals can afford them. And more.
That is why I expect Corbett to be more likely. Daniels probably stays in Chicago.
(03-03-2022, 05:56 PM)Synric Wrote: Jackson Carman actually had one of his best games of the year vs the Browns at LG and Parham looks to be at his best on the right side (played RT then RG his last two years.)
I know you're going by size but I'm going by footwork.
Believe Carman also played well in filling in for Spain a couple of other games, the Chargers and Chiefs games in the regular
season. He clearly likes the left side of the line better than the right.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - bfine32 - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 05:56 PM)Synric Wrote: Jackson Carman actually had one of his best games of the year vs the Browns at LG and Parham looks to be at his best on the right side (played RT then RG his last two years.)
I know you're going by size but I'm going by footwork.
I see. Thought Parham was closer to 300 than 315. I guess he just looks smaller:
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RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - schroomytunes - 03-03-2022
Ok here is mine:
LT- Jonah Williams
LG- Jackson Carmen
C- Brian Allen (Rams)
RG- Mark Glowinski (Colts)
RT- Germain Ifedi (Bears) until the draft pick is ready.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - Synric - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 06:38 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I see. Thought Parham was closer to 300 than 315. I guess he just looks smaller:
His in season weight was supposedly 285ish and was supposed to be closer to32inch arms. He came into the Senior Bowl filled out at 313 at 6'2 with 33.5 inch arms. It was one of the underrated weigh ins of the week. Dylan Parham and Zion Johnson were built very similar.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - SuperBowlBound! - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 04:46 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Just my opinion but most of you are predicting 3 FA’s for the OL and spending around $28 million. I think that’s very optimistic. Wish it was realistic but I fear it’s not. Add Bates and Uzomah for $20 million. They will hold back around 7 million like last year for in season maneuverability that leaves little for another 15 roster spots. In fact none.
You may be right and then we will be wrong. It is not meant as a debate just put your 5 starters down.
Who do you think will be the starting 5?
LT - ???
LG - ???
C - ???
RG - ???
RT - ???
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - SuperBowlBound! - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 05:07 PM)Dr.Z Wrote: Parham eh? What round would you have us taking him in? (assume 2nd; I haven't read earlier pages of this thread). Assuming you followed the Senior Bowl too lol? Parham seems like an awesome fit for our offense given the scheme he played in @ college. I would love to land him and hope he stays quasi- under the radar, altho I could see his stock climbing.
Don't forget to add your starting 5.
LT - ???
LG - ???
C - ???
RG - ???
RT - ???
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - SuperBowlBound! - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 05:22 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: LT: Terron Armstead
LG: Jonah Williams (Move from LT)
C: Ryan Jensen
RG: Brandon Scherff
RT: Daniel Faalele
I am hoping you are the winner. You would make a great GM if you are right.
That would be a great line.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - SuperBowlBound! - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 05:40 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: This is the unlikely line up I'd like to see
LT J. Williams
LG L. Tomlinson
C Ben Jones
RG J. Daniels, not sure they can pry him away from Chicago, maybe A. Corbett if they can't
RT M. Moses
If PFF's contract projections hold true, the Bengals can afford them. And more.
It is not what you want to see it what you think you will see.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - Soonerpeace - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 07:10 PM)SuperBowlBound! Wrote: You may be right and then we will be wrong. It is not meant as a debate just put your 5 starters down.
Who do you think will be the starting 5?
LT - ???
LG - ???
C - ???
RG - ???
RT - ???
LT Williams
LG Spain/Carman
C Ben Jones
G James Daniels
RT Reiff/ Raimann
Reserves
Hopkins
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - SuperBowlBound! - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 09:04 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: LT Williams
LG Spain/Carman
C Ben Jones
G James Daniels
RT Reiff/ Raimann
Reserves
Hopkins
You can't have either or you need to pick one or the other.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 07:16 PM)SuperBowlBound! Wrote: It is not what you want to see it what you think you will see.
Fine. Remember you asked. What I think I’ll see is disappointing.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - Soonerpeace - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 09:06 PM)SuperBowlBound! Wrote: You can't have either or you need to pick one or the other.
My starter is the first one but it’s either or. If you notice I only have 1 reserve. That’s because where I have 2 the second one is the targeted reserve. But I did it that way for a reason. I think it’s a battle.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - Nicomo Cosca - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 05:22 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: LT: Terron Armstead
LG: Jonah Williams (Move from LT)
C: Ryan Jensen
RG: Brandon Scherff
RT: Daniel Faalele
Not happening. The Bengals have changed their ways in FA, but not that much. Absolutely no way Mike Brown pays top dollar for an OG on the wrong side of 30.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - phil413 - 03-04-2022
LT Jonah Williams
LG Quinton Spain
C Bradley Bozeman
RG James Daniels (hope)
RT Morgan Moses
Subs: G/T J.Carman, T/G D.Smith, T I.Prince, C/G Cade Mays, C T.Hill
I'm debating finances here. I think they let Spain sit on the market and when Quinton doesn't get the 6M the agent thinks he is worth, he comes back to the Bengals for 4M/yr with not much past year 2 guaranteed. Then he and Carman battle. That or Moses prices himself out, we get a LG like C.Williams and we have a Smith, Carman, top 4 rd T battle at RT. I'll play it safe and go with what's above, giving the money that would have gone to Spain towards CB with Schofield being a solid backup for cheap.
EDIT: My 5 was already taken, putting Spain back in.
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - Murdock2420 - 03-04-2022
My guess:
LT - Jonah Williams
LG - Spain/Carman (I know supposed to pick one but I just feel like they will have a "camp" battle.
C - Trey Hopkins
RG - James Daniels
RT - D'Ante Smith
RE: 2022 Starting Offensive Line - SuperBowlBound! - 03-04-2022
(03-04-2022, 12:35 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: My guess:As much as we would like unfortunately, we cannot have 2 at LG.
LT - Jonah Williams
LG - Spain/Carman
C - Trey Hopkins
RG - Mike Daniels
RT - D'Ante Smith
You need to decide which one will start.