(11-01-2022, 10:54 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think you both have points. The Jets, Saints, and Falcons either had depleted secondaries and/or refused to play Cover 2. And didn't have elite pass rushers.

Teams with a good pass rush go cover 2 and we can do nothing.

Zac can't adjust.

We should gave beat the Rams in the SB...but he didn't adjust.

(11-01-2022, 10:07 PM)TheFan Wrote: What was last year? Or are we just going to use a 3 game sample size as fact? Our offense has been poor against any competent defense, all year.

Burrow has a 304 yard passing game and his huge 459 one. Outside of that he has no others over 300 yards. His next best was against the Steelers. Pittsburgh was also our 2nd best offensive game on the year, based on yards, where we out up 432. 

The Browns obviously have us figured out but it's laughable to act like the Steelers or Ravens do.

(11-02-2022, 08:54 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: After destroying the Steelers in 2 games last year... we come out and lose to a backup Qb...????
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(11-02-2022, 10:00 AM)TheFan Wrote: If Evan makes the xp or FG do people shut up about the Steelers loss and all of a sudden we're okay in the division? Literally nothing would be different about the game in regards to anything a coach could have done. 

Again, I'm not arguing Zac is a good coach but to claim the entire division has us figured out because of 3 games in the first half of the season when our offense has been bad in general is stupid. 

We've played 6 or 7 back up QBs this year. None of those have anything to do with how the offense performs. 

(11-01-2022, 11:25 PM)ezekiel23 Wrote: I’m no expert,but even I can see what’s wrong with this Offense the majority of the time in adjusting to defensive schemes.The TV analysts,including former Quarterbacks,professionals,can see his ludicrous play calling.But Zac just doesn’t seem to get it.


I’m not trying to insult the guy or anything,but,it just makes me wonder,what’s going on inside his brain?

(11-02-2022, 12:37 AM)GodFather Wrote: These other coaches make Zac look completely amateurish and out of his league. These guys are working with less and producing more and all Zac says "It will be fine" 

We have no excuse preferring this poorly on offense with the weapons we have and yet here we are.

My biggest fear is the predictability of Mike Brown and his stubborn ways. That to me will equal Zac being here for quite some time regardless of how the Bengals perform. 

(11-02-2022, 10:46 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Is it that the AFCN has figured us out? Or that we just can't overcome when a team has a dominant game-changer on the DL?

(11-02-2022, 10:46 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Is it that the AFCN has figured us out? Or that we just can't overcome when a team has a dominant game-changer on the DL?

(11-02-2022, 10:00 AM)TheFan Wrote: If Evan makes the xp or FG do people shut up about the Steelers loss and all of a sudden we're okay in the division? Literally nothing would be different about the game in regards to anything a coach could have done. 

Again, I'm not arguing Zac is a good coach but to claim the entire division has us figured out because of 3 games in the first half of the season when our offense has been bad in general is stupid. 

We've played 6 or 7 back up QBs this year. None of those have anything to do with how the offense performs. 

(11-02-2022, 11:04 AM)MasonDT70 Wrote: Both? The ravens don't have some superstar edge rusher. 

(11-02-2022, 01:15 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Just what I was going to say. The Ravens only posted 2 sacks on us.

Also, Joey B has dealt with pressure. How many times was he sacked on the way to the Super Bowl?

It's more than that. Everything mid-deep has been completely cut off and we often look confused out there.

I don't disagree with anyone saying Mixon and the blocking are a problem, but I also think the problems run deeper than that.

Hopefully Zac has the answers, but great coaches would be ready much quicker than this.

(11-01-2022, 11:59 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: You stop it. Let's just ignore that the Steelers game was a turnover bonanza. Whatever helps you sleep, I guess. I am talking specifically about this year. Last year's results mean jack squat.

Teams compile film, analyze tendencies and draft players to help stop the best teams in their division. This is football 101.

If you feel better pretending we haven't been worse in general against our division, then good for you.

(11-02-2022, 12:55 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Don't be shocked, but i agree with you. Mostly...

The problem is turnstiles at the tackle position. Firing Pollack and bring anyone else in will not matter when your tackles can't slow EDs down.


Cover 2 doesn't matter now that Burrow knows he can't just go out there and fling it deep every other down. Pick at the defense and then hit them when they go man. 

There are two massive problems with this team right now and those are 1. Bad tackles when facing good EDs and 2. Joe Mixon and his inability to gain any semblance of yards or pass block at an even average level. 

(11-02-2022, 08:23 AM)Garrus Wrote: I 100% agree this is our big issue so far this season on offense. Those check downs to the RB usually have been the correct decision, since the defense plays back so much, nobody is open. If Mixon makes a man miss, that changes those 1-yard plays to 8-10 yard plays. Mixon is killing us this year. The tackles just compound it because he has to continue to get rid of the ball quick because they can't slow down the pass rush. 

(11-02-2022, 08:30 AM)bengaloo Wrote: Dont know how much of a factor it is, but the entire AFCN have DL's that are better than our OL. Its rough going for Joe playing in this division behind this OL. However, they are showing improvement except Jonah. He's getting worse.

(11-02-2022, 12:53 PM)R3stangs Wrote: 3 games is half the conference schedule so it kind of becomes a significant number. And the offense hasn't been bad in every game (actually quite good in recent weeks) so its not quite as stupid a statement as you claim. 

(11-02-2022, 01:34 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: All I  know for sure is that this team has no answer for top end pass rushers, lacks creativity in terms of play design and overall scheme...and most importantly, the offense as a whole has always been inconsistent as hell under Zac and Brian, and tends to disappear for stretches during far too many games. This was the case last year too, but they were able to overcome it because of all the big plays. 

Of course, it also doesn't help that the line continues to be an issue. 

(11-02-2022, 01:47 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Agree

I still believe scheme and play design/play calling from the Zac/Brian/Braintrust isn't doing this team any favors.