(12-06-2022, 10:12 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Lou Anarumo is the best defensive coordinator the Bengals have had since Di... — I mean Richard — LeBeau.  Lou is better than Mike Zimmer and I never thought I could admit this but it’s true.  He is.  Remember when the Bengals couldn’t cover a tight end?  Those days are over.  

(12-07-2022, 09:56 PM)Sled21 Wrote: It is pretty well known that Mike Brown considered Zim the one that got away. If Lou leaves, I can see MB asking Zac to offer Zim the DC job. He's been a head coach. Backing off to DC close to home for a team who's ownership is like family might just be the ticket for him. That said, I don't think Lou will leave. Owners want Offensive minds these days.

(12-07-2022, 09:12 AM)Synric Wrote: I've heard Brian Callahan's name floated as a HC candidate over Lou too which I think is crazy.

(12-06-2022, 10:12 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Offense sells tickets and t-shirts.  Defense wins championships.

Lou Anarumo is the best defensive coordinator the Bengals have had since Di... — I mean Richard — LeBeau.  Lou is better than Mike Zimmer and I never thought I could admit this but it’s true.  He is.  Remember when the Bengals couldn’t cover a tight end?  Those days are over.  

We all know Lou is considered head coach material by a growing number of teams.  I’m still hurt over Mike Zimmer’s exit from the Queen City because the Bengals fell apart over the next few years.  Letting Lou Anarumo go would be an even bigger mistake.  His defenses have risen to the occasion in the playoffs with key interceptions, forced fumbles, and critical stops.  The Bengals would not be AFC champions without Lou’s defense.

Mikey Boy, Katie, and Duke need to pay the man.  I mean PAY.  I would offer Lou everything including the kitchen sink.  The worst nightmare I can imagine is coaching AGAINST him.

(12-07-2022, 09:46 PM)TheFan Wrote: What are you basing this off of? Outside of not able to "cover a tight end"...as if that's what determines the entire success of a defense. 

According to Lou himself, yards don't mean jack and points are how he determines how good his defense played. 

In 6 years with the Bengals Zimmers defense averaged 12th in the league with two top 5 defenses. 

In 4 years with the Bengals Lou's defense has averaged 18th in the league with zero top 10 defenses. 

Both took over garbage defenses and made them better over time but to claim Lou's have been better is just a blatant lie not backed by any metric outside of maybe yards given up to TEs. 

Minnesota went from the worst defense in 2013 to averaging being top 10 Zimmers first 5 years, overall  7.8 with multiple top 5 defenses. It dropped to 11.8 overall after his last two years when they were pretty poor defenses.

I do think Lou has done a good job though and would want him to stay.

(12-07-2022, 10:29 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: What Lou has done with our defense in a short time is better than Zimmer in my opinion and just like Marvin and Dalton get hammered for zero wins in playoffs, it seems Zimmer never gets mentioned in how bad our defense played against the run in those games... To me Lou passed Zimmer with the great run he made in the playoffs last year especially if that seems to be what we most measure success by is winning in the playoffs..

(12-08-2022, 12:14 AM)TheFan Wrote: The most our offense ever scored in one of those games was 16. The least we scored in last year's run was 19. There wasn't a single game where our QB had more TDs than INT. 

Even with Lous defense we're losing those games. The only time we played well last year against the run was the superbowl. To say we were better is just a lie. They were shit the other games but our offense didn't absolutely pee down their leg like the Marvin Lewis era ones did. That's the difference. 

If you look at what RBs did running last year was worse. 

2022 Playoffs:
Raiders averaged 6.4ypc.
Tennessee averaged 5.3 ypc
Chiefs averaged 6.0ypc
Rams averaged 1.6ypc

2011-2015 Playoffs
Steelers averaged 4.4ypc. 
Colts averaged 4.1ypc.
Chargers averaged 5.0ypc
Texans averaged 4.7ypc
Texans averaged 5.6ypc

(12-08-2022, 12:52 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: 2011 Texans score 24 on def run for almost 200 yards 0 turnovers
2012  Texans gain over 400  yards 1 turnover

2013  Charger rush 190  0 turnovers score 27

2014.  Over 450 yards, 26 pts 1 turnovers

As I stated Zimmer defense underperformed also under  in playoffs, 2 turnovers in 4 games,  Lou defense had 9  in 4 games .

(12-08-2022, 01:06 AM)TheFan Wrote: I agree the turnovers were a huge difference and a big part of our post season success. In regards to yards though there was little difference. Obviously the teams total rush yards would be higher when the offense could do nothing. In the first 4 playoff games the offense scored 6 total points in the second half.

Again, I like Lou and hope he stays but it's factually untrue that his defenses have been better so far through his time here compared to what Zimmer accomplished during periods both here and with the Vikings. 

(12-07-2022, 09:12 AM)Synric Wrote: DeMeco Ryans will probably be the first Defensive Coach to land a HC gig so that might keep Lou in Cincy another year.

I've heard Brian Callahan's name floated as a HC candidate over Lou too which I think is crazy.

(12-07-2022, 09:12 AM)Synric Wrote: DeMeco Ryans will probably be the first Defensive Coach to land a HC gig so that might keep Lou in Cincy another year.

I've heard Brian Callahan's name floated as a HC candidate over Lou too which I think is crazy.

(12-08-2022, 01:03 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: What teams do we Suspect will be looking for a HC next year?

(12-08-2022, 01:23 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Part of reason was other team controlled clock, charger game great example. At this point in their career Lou has out performed Zimmer when it mattered most. Less a knock on Zimmer and more  a kudos to Lou.