(02-19-2023, 10:08 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: The only place I would like the Front Office to show some mild aggression in free agency is at right tackle.  La’el Collins has injury issues and runs through the right B-gap are still problematic.  Making a serious play for Mike McGlinchey or Germain Ifedi might be a wise move.

(02-19-2023, 10:16 PM)samhain Wrote: The don't have the needs they once did.  

In the last three offseason, we've seen them grab 4-5 outside guys of various price tags.  

I'm good with them not spending big, but I think they need to consider bringing in an OL or 2.  

It is indeed getting to be crunch time with the roster, but it's also the absolute last year that they will be able to go "all in" and add a piece.

(02-19-2023, 06:42 PM)JumboTron Wrote: This was one of the most bizarre takes I've seen in awhile.  I mean this would've hit differently in 2011....but wow.

(02-19-2023, 10:08 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: The only place I would like the Front Office to show some mild aggression in free agency is at right tackle.  La’el Collins has injury issues and runs through the right B-gap are still problematic.  Making a serious play for Mike McGlinchey or Germain Ifedi might be a wise move.

(02-19-2023, 11:30 PM)casear2727 Wrote: If we cant draft oline then we will have a very difficult time.  Cant have 5 guys from FA.  We suck at drafting oline and the scouting staff needs to step it up.

It is highly doubtful we sign back to back RT in free agency, especially with the first one still getting paid...

(02-19-2023, 11:27 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I think we are handling the split duties of the GM spot well.

But, Im sorry fellas, in the last decade this scouting department's best oline draft picks in over a decade are Jonah (led league in sacks) and Volson (bottom 10 of all guards in the league according to PFF).

We lost the SB because of the oline.  We were injured this year so who knws, but we did it with FA's, our 2 home growners were far from the best.  We must draft better oline, period.  

I hate having such a limited staff, I know they say they like it, I think we all expect them to say that, but it may be true.  Other team have analytics departments, we have one nerd.  We can be better, it isnt a big ask, just like the indoor facility, amazing how quick those real estate issues cleared up...

(02-19-2023, 02:35 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: First time in a long time where this is reasonable. We could still add a nice piece or two for mid/low level contracts, but we are not in a position to give out big contracts to outside FA’s this offseason. Keep our guys and figure out Burrow’s extension are the big items this offseason. Need to hit on draft picks and keep developing our young guys to put us over the top.

(02-19-2023, 03:54 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Step 1: Have an actual professional competent GM.
Step 2: Have an actual scouting department rather than like 4 of them.
Step 3: Listen to those scouts rather than calling up Paul Alexander or seeing a really fast 40 time.

So.... we're screwed on that front once we're no longer picking top-5. Lol


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Side note edit: Are we calling Hendrickson a less heralded pickup now? He was made the 8th highest paid DE in the league when he signed.

(02-20-2023, 01:21 AM)phil413 Wrote: I predict (link below) that they'll end up going back to a previous plan of signing a few cut vets that don't count against comp picks. I say end up, because if the right signing were available, they'll jump on it.  We have prestige and can attract ring chasers, why would we squander that?  

The problem is, a big splash like long term stability at Tackle with Brown or McClinchy will tie a large cap hit into the 4th or 5th year to get them to sign, and not line up well from hits from guys like Burrow, Wilson or Tee and especially Chase.  

Plan A should be getting Burrow done NOW so you know how the deal will be structured, get Wilson signed and 2 more year out of Reader by front loading an extension.  Spend some of this year's money to front load some vets so their latter years aren't so high.  If they clean up on extending half the 2024 guys, it opens up the draft (they're notorious for drafting to replace guys in their last year) and you get to see how far the gap is on Tee.  

Signing cut vets will end up being as good as 2nd tier UFAs, and allows you to still get the 3rd/4th for Bates, 4th/5th's for Pratt and Hurst, ect...  Again, if the right vet is signed, so be it.  But if the playing field is similar, the picks are important and can be dealt for vet players.  

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Here-is-the-potential-free-agency-list-we-should-be-using

(02-20-2023, 01:21 AM)phil413 Wrote: I predict (link below) that they'll end up going back to a previous plan of signing a few cut vets that don't count against comp picks. I say end up, because if the right signing were available, they'll jump on it.  We have prestige and can attract ring chasers, why would we squander that?  

The problem is, a big splash like long term stability at Tackle with Brown or McClinchy will tie a large cap hit into the 4th or 5th year to get them to sign, and not line up well from hits from guys like Burrow, Wilson or Tee and especially Chase.  

Plan A should be getting Burrow done NOW so you know how the deal will be structured, get Wilson signed and 2 more year out of Reader by front loading an extension.  Spend some of this year's money to front load some vets so their latter years aren't so high.  If they clean up on extending half the 2024 guys, it opens up the draft (they're notorious for drafting to replace guys in their last year) and you get to see how far the gap is on Tee.  

Signing cut vets will end up being as good as 2nd tier UFAs, and allows you to still get the 3rd/4th for Bates, 4th/5th's for Pratt and Hurst, ect...  Again, if the right vet is signed, so be it.  But if the playing field is similar, the picks are important and can be dealt for vet players.  

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Here-is-the-potential-free-agency-list-we-should-be-using

(02-19-2023, 02:17 PM)Trademark Wrote: The cap will obviously start affecting us,” Bengals pro scouting director Steven Radicevic said, via The Athletic’s Paul Dehner Jr. (subscription required). “We are not going to be able to go out and spend and pay a bunch of guys. We are going to try to keep our own guys.

“The last couple of years we’ve been able to add in free agency and add some pieces places where we were missing guys and add some depth, add starters through free agency. Now it’s going to be keeping our guys, sustain the roster we have and then build through the draft and waiver claims.”

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2023/02/bengals-unlikely-to-be-aggressive-in-free-agency

(02-20-2023, 02:00 AM)Synric Wrote: Bengals fans need to get over this quickly because its going to be a very common thing over the next decade or so. Paul Alexander has built a business evaluating OL prospects for the draft. His business actually started because he is so well known for OL scouting that agents reached out to him to look at their guys. Every team in the NFL is talking to PA right now.

(02-19-2023, 11:27 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I think we are handling the split duties of the GM spot well.

But, Im sorry fellas, in the last decade this scouting department's best oline draft picks in over a decade are Jonah (led league in sacks) and Volson (bottom 10 of all guards in the league according to PFF).

We lost the SB because of the oline.  We were injured this year so who knws, but we did it with FA's, our 2 home growners were far from the best.  We must draft better oline, period.  

I hate having such a limited staff, I know they say they like it, I think we all expect them to say that, but it may be true.  Other team have analytics departments, we have one nerd.  We can be better, it isnt a big ask, just like the indoor facility, amazing how quick those real estate issues cleared up...

(02-20-2023, 03:42 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote:

(02-20-2023, 05:06 PM)Housh Wrote: I think we sign one pretty big free agent and that’s it.


Would love to take a flyer on a pretty good pass rushing linebacker. If Khalil Mack was a FA he’d definitely be a guy I’d go after.

(02-20-2023, 05:06 PM)Housh Wrote: I think we sign one pretty big free agent and that’s it.


Would love to take a flyer on a pretty good pass rushing linebacker. If Khalil Mack was a FA he’d definitely be a guy I’d go after.

(02-20-2023, 04:30 PM)Wyche Wrote: For real, he sure as shit couldn't scout em his last several years here.

(02-20-2023, 05:47 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I have a hard time seeing Jerrah firing his ass half way through his first year, then picking up the phone to get his advice.

Perfect Head Set

The head is aligned directly over the instep of the post foot. And the alignment sequence goes head, shoulders, chest, waist. (Not shoulders back, chest out). It’s the power posture used in squat, power clean etc.

Great job by ⁦@ParisJohnsonJr⁩ pic.twitter.com/aE4gStyIHs

— Paul Alexander (@CoachPaulAlex) January 22, 2023

(02-20-2023, 06:23 PM)Synric Wrote: NFL Teams will gather as much information from as many sources as possible when drafting. PA didn't just go evaluate Jackson Carman he also did Penei Sewell, Christian Darrisaw, and around 15 other guys. 

He was working with Oklahoma's Anton Harrison a few weeks ago.

The RUSHER’s HANDS tell MY HANDS what to do.

Nice rhythm of INDEPENDENT HANDS and FEET by Oklahoma LT ANTON HARRISON in pre-draft training.

⁦@Ayee_Tonn⁩ pic.twitter.com/qTwp2NhJ6l

— Paul Alexander (@CoachPaulAlex) January 24, 2023