(01-09-2024, 03:16 AM)Synric Wrote: Clint Boiling too but your point stands.

Don't get it twisted though McNally is an amazing coach. I had a couple opportunities to go to his seminars and met him once. I love his Twitter feed its all football and he teaches from his bathroom. Lol.

(01-09-2024, 03:18 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Clint Boling was drafted in 2011.

(01-09-2024, 03:10 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Well maybe they shouldn’t…

I see he’s been here since 2012. Which is right around the time we started sucking at drafting OL. Kevin Zeitler is pretty much the only good pick during that timeframe. That’s horrendous.

(01-09-2024, 06:37 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: And even with Kevin Zeitler who is having a long career of being a solid above average player, they traded down to get him when they could have gotten David DeCastro (6 Pro Bowls, 2x 1st Team All-Pro) in their original slot. We got Brandon Thompson with the extra pick.

(01-09-2024, 02:30 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: While I'd have no problem if we got a new OL coach, Duke and Potts might want to listen a little more to Pollack in the draft room. Apparently he was banging the table to draft Creed Humphrey. He also wanted to draft Trey Smith later in the draft. Both guys have been starters in KC since they were drafted.

Our 2021 picks of Carmen, Smith, and Hill combined this season for ONE snap. It was on ST.

(01-09-2024, 03:16 AM)Synric Wrote: Clint Boiling too but your point stands.

Don't get it twisted though McNally is an amazing coach. I had a couple opportunities to go to his seminars and met him once. I love his Twitter feed its all football and he teaches from his bathroom. Lol.

(01-09-2024, 02:30 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: While I'd have no problem if we got a new OL coach, Duke and Potts might want to listen a little more to Pollack in the draft room. Apparently he was banging the table to draft Creed Humphrey. He also wanted to draft Trey Smith later in the draft. Both guys have been starters in KC since they were drafted.

Our 2021 picks of Carmen, Smith, and Hill combined this season for ONE snap. It was on ST.

(01-09-2024, 02:49 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I heard the same thing. Which goes along with what was being reported as far as Carman being Mike Brown’s guy.

(01-09-2024, 10:56 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: and we DID draft Jonah too

(01-09-2024, 11:28 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Trey Hopkins was on the hook for 6 million for 2 years. They weren’t drafting a center. A lot of teams missed on Creed. He’s from my hometown and I personally know his Dad.

(01-09-2024, 11:44 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Bet they’d like to go back and eat a fairly manageable dead cap hit to gain an All Pro.

(01-09-2024, 11:19 AM)TKUHL Wrote: Hate to see anyone lose their job but damn, he needs to go. That final drive against Pitt was ridiculous. Sacked 4 out of 6 plays. I just don’t get why we still have this dude. Fix the damn line already, on both sides.

(01-08-2024, 08:22 PM)ClarkHarris4Prez Wrote: Has there been any word on him coming back? This was his 3rd year back and that’s the length of most of these assistant contracts I assumed….So I was HOPING we would move on since the guy has shown ZERO ability to coach up our draft picks and our line has continued to be bad every year, despite a lot of decent talent.

Seriously, how do they think they can sell keeping him to this fanbase? My God how stubborn are they?! It’s so frustrating. They are SO CLOSE to being a yearly top team, yet they just refuse to take the final couple steps that the top teams take. Like keeping a position coach year after year that has cost this team 2 super bowls already.

I hope someone here can tell me they’ve heard something that could give us hope he is gone?

(01-09-2024, 02:49 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I heard the same thing. Which goes along with what was being reported as far as Carman being Mike Brown’s guy.

(01-09-2024, 03:21 AM)Synric Wrote: My bad you're right yea the last decade of OL picks and development has been meh. I've pointed out Jim a few times over the years.... great coach but scouting well the 90s and the 2010 teens speak for themselves.

(01-09-2024, 11:19 AM)TKUHL Wrote: Hate to see anyone lose their job but damn, he needs to go. That final drive against Pitt was ridiculous. Sacked 4 out of 6 plays. I just don’t get why we still have this dude. Fix the damn line already, on both sides.

(01-09-2024, 01:15 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Frank Pollock coached basically three different personnel groups with similar results. It’s not them. It’s him.

(01-09-2024, 01:20 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Duke Tobin has assembled awful OL’s with 3 different OL coaches. It’s not them, it’s him…

The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

(01-09-2024, 01:25 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: That’s a great point.  Here’s what I don’t understand; maybe you can help because my knowledge is predominantly on the defensive side of the ball.

Duke Tobin does his due diligence.  We see his offensive line selections had excellent college careers.  When they come to Cincinnati, college maulers become professional turnstiles.  How?

(01-09-2024, 01:30 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: On draft picks, they haven't just sucked here, they've sucked everywhere. Some aren't in the league anymore. Since Zeitler, they've had some REALLY bad picks. Ogbuehi, Price, Fisher, Carman, Smith, etc. Two different head coaches, three different oline coaches. Like Nico, I believe the truth lies in the middle.