(01-15-2024, 08:06 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: If the Dolphins end up not tagging Christian Wilkins, should he be the Bengals #1 priority once the legal tampering period rolls around?

Dolphins GM Chris Grier says Christian Wilkins bet on himself and it paid off for him. He earned the right to be a free agent. They felt they previously made a strong offer.

— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) January 15, 2024

 

(01-16-2024, 12:18 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I love to steal Madubuike from Ravens

(01-15-2024, 11:44 PM)jj22 Wrote: Try to trade a first to ATL for Pitts if you willing to trade it. It’ll take a lot less to get him then get down to Bowers.

The Bowers dream was over when we decided we wanted the team to win a couple more meaningless games.

Last year was the year of the TE. This class……

Don’t tag Tee, try to sign Pittman to a long term deal to compliment Chase. Or another equal caliber replacement like that. Try to get WR2 locked down for multiple years.

Tee’s hamstring issues are troublesome.

(01-16-2024, 12:39 AM)007BengalsFan Wrote: A first round pick for Pitts?  From what he has done so far in his NFL career, I would'nt trade a 1st for him.  Would he do better in a different offense like the Bengals?  Maybe but I dont think you trade your 1st round pick to find out.

Pittman is a very good WR but the problem is he will cost as much as Tee if not more.  We cant spend 20+ million for Pittman, pay Chase even more than that and have Burrow making 55 million.  The Bengals need to find a good #2 WR at an affordable cost.

(01-16-2024, 12:00 AM)bfine32 Wrote: 4real? The dream was over when "we" decided we wanted the team to win? 

There was an equal amount of fans who wanted us to lose out, so I really doubt "fan vote" had much to do with it.

Personally I'm glad the team never gave up the fight

(01-16-2024, 12:39 AM)007BengalsFan Wrote: A first round pick for Pitts?  From what he has done so far in his NFL career, I would'nt trade a 1st for him.  Would he do better in a different offense like the Bengals?  Maybe but I dont think you trade your 1st round pick to find out.

Pittman is a very good WR but the problem is he will cost as much as Tee if not more.  We cant spend 20+ million for Pittman, pay Chase even more than that and have Burrow making 55 million.  The Bengals need to find a good #2 WR at an affordable cost.

(01-16-2024, 01:02 AM)jj22 Wrote: I’m of the belief if they are supposedly willing to spend 20+ on Tee then money isn’t the issue. Maybe they just need a WR who has an Agent they can work with. 

If they are willing to pay Tee WR1 then they aren’t looking for affordable cost at his spot. If they aren’t, we shouldn’t limit our wishlist for the likes of a Cooks, Curtis Samuel, and Marquis Browns of FA. 

For the record I think they will tag Tee. I’m just not sure they should.

(01-16-2024, 01:23 AM)007BengalsFan Wrote: I hope Bengals management are smart enough they dont tag Tee to keep him.  Is it really a good idea to pay Tee 21 million dollars to have him have another season where he has hamstring issues?  But this is the same management that could have traded Tee for some draft picks before the season, now they will get very little from him so nothing they do will surprise me.

(01-16-2024, 10:40 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Is Wilkins a culture fit?

I feel like these days we don't even sniff guys unless they are "good" guys or "culture fits".

(01-15-2024, 11:32 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: He had a career high in sacks this year at 10 but the previous two years he did have 5 sacks each season with PFF grades of 83.3 and 85.1 so he has been pretty good the last 3 years.  I still think I would rather have Madubuike since he is two years younger at 26 vs Wilkins at 28.  I would take either one if we could get them.  We only have one good DT on the roster right now with BJ Hill and he will be going into the last year of his contract in 2024

(01-15-2024, 11:05 PM)impactplaya Wrote: Awuize really got lit up in the 2nd half of the season
Are you sure you want him back ?

(01-16-2024, 01:23 AM)007BengalsFan Wrote: I hope Bengals management are smart enough they dont tag Tee to keep him.  Is it really a good idea to pay Tee 21 million dollars to have him have another season where he has hamstring issues?  But this is the same management that could have traded Tee for some draft picks before the season, now they will get very little from him so nothing they do will surprise me.

(01-16-2024, 11:35 AM)Synric Wrote: .
Chido did have a down year coming off the knee injury. He is also a solid veteran zone corner still under 30. He's a leader in the DB room and brings some consistency to a young secondary. I liked what I seen from DJ Turner but Awuzie's consistency would be welcomed as Dax and Battle work through youth. Price tag should be similar to his contract now so 7.5m ish.




Tagging Tee is a smart easy button for the Bengals to push. The Bengals are a passing team with 1 receiver going into 2024. It's a 1 year contract for a receiver that is a proven multi year 100+ targets 70+ catches 1000+ yards 6+ TDs receiver.

The Bengals are more likely to win a Super Bowl in 2024 with Higgins than without him. This is the Bates/Bell situation all over again. Boyd and Tee leaving would push two young players into starting high volume positions. 

(01-16-2024, 12:16 PM)Whatever Wrote: I wouldn't be against bringing Chido back, depending on the price tag.  Dude has the worst luck, and injuries at the wrong times have cost him millions.

Tee isn't an easy button to me.  It would make a lot more sense to Tag him if it was last year or the year before, but coming off a season where we missed the playoffs, it's tough to sell him as a SB missing ingredient.  

The question is, what helps your SB chances more:Higgins for one year, a Mike Evans for three years, or say Hollywood Brown+Dalton Schultz on multi-year deals?  The structure on the FT is brutal, and you can spread out that $23 mil on multiple high end players with structure on multi-year deals.

To me, if you think Tee is worth Top 5 money with the FT, then you should just sign him to a multi -yead deal with a $23 mil aav and be done and be able to manipulate the structure.  Obviously, either the team doesn't see him as worth that or he wants more than that.

(01-15-2024, 11:53 PM)jj22 Wrote: We need a starting quality CB who wont break the bank. And we know a healthy Awuzie can be at the very least our Eli Apple in the secondary for another year. Especially with Lou returning.

(01-16-2024, 12:25 PM)Synric Wrote: Yes I get the difference a year makes but Tee's history has enough consistency that I could say 2023 is an outlier and worth the gamble of a 1 year Franchise Tag. 

I don't know if Hollywood Brown and Burrow would mesh well. Brown likes deep overs and deep posts all of those deep playaction 40+ air yard routes. Bengals seem like a team that wants to win in the intermediate with timing and anticipation routes. 

(01-16-2024, 12:50 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Eli made basically league min. Chido will cost around $10 mil per year. It is not remotely the same thing. 

As for Wilkins, he likely gets tagged. But even if we signed him, he dies not fill a hole, just a BJ Hill upgrade. Still need WR2, NT, RT, WR3, TE, secondary help, and another NT type. 

A pass rushing DT fills a need, but not a hole, if you get my drift (Hill and Carter are both on the roster). If we go this route, Hill likely gets released or we let Reader walk. Or, we need some restructures to give us more space. 

(01-16-2024, 01:46 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I dont see any scenario in which Hill is released.  We had Hill, Larry O and Reader in 2021.  Carter would be released long before BJ in my opinion if any were to be cut.