(01-24-2024, 09:24 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I didn't dodge anything. I'm not the one who said he was a horrible coach. I said his ceiling was mediocrity and stand by that. If you can win in the regular season but can't win one playoff game in 16 seasons, that's mediocre, period.
Paul Brown did his best coaching in Cleveland no doubt, he changed the game. And I don't know why Dick, Bruce, Dave or Homer are even in this discussion, they sucked as head coaches.
Meanwhile my guy Zac Taylor, (who I was absolutely blasted for supporting all along), in 5 seasons, has 5 playoff wins and an AFC Championship plus a trip to the Super Bowl. His 5 wins matches the franchise win total from the Bengals birth through his hiring. 
Not sure why you're trying to make Marvin some great coach in a place where everyone knows his record. He's a super nice guy, a mediocre coach who brought the team out of the basement but couldn't get them on the bus. It is what it is.

(01-24-2024, 06:48 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: Sled, when I mentioned dodging I meant dodging the fact Marvin has the 2nd highest winning percentage of all Bengal coaches.


I never used the words Marvin and great in a sentence, that was you did that.
All that I said again and again and again is if Marvin was a horrible or mediocre coach what about all the other Bengal coaches with the exception of Forrest Gregg that have a Bengals career of a losing record and that includes Paul Brown who brought the team out of the basement but couldn't get them on the bus??? It is what it is.

P.S. I wish Burrow was on Marvin's team and Zac was stuck with Andy Dalton and see things would have blossomed. Wait Andy was on Zac's team and that is how we got Joe Burrow[who is light years better then Dalton, Palmer and Kitna] who Marvin was stuck with.

So again was Marvin a great coach? No!!! But even Vince Lombardi could not work with Mike Brown[who is the real villain].

So was Marvin a mediocre coach? Maybe, but that leaves a lot of former Bengal coaches who have sub .500 records as Bengal coaches worse then Marvin. It is what it is. { I like that phrase }

(02-08-2024, 01:43 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Sounds like Chad is joining Marvin in LV as an assistant coach.

(02-08-2024, 02:14 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Oh wow. I admit, this one stings a bit as I would have loved him with the Bengals.

Having dinner with Antonio Pierce & I’m going to ask for a job with the Raiders in some capacity to help diversify my portfolio/resume, this would be my 39th job if all goes well ??

— Chad Johnson (@ochocinco) February 7, 2024

(02-09-2024, 01:59 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Apparently it’s not really happening, and it was just Chad being Chad.

(02-09-2024, 01:59 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Apparently it’s not really happening, and it was just Chad being Chad.