(01-21-2024, 03:40 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: First i believe your math is off it would be interesting 2 to 4 range over minimum if they give him 2 to 4 million.  As why give him anything more I see that argument but on flipside his performance warrants more plus who knows how Burrow is going do to in recovery,  I prefer a happy backup and rewarding him an extra 1 million to 2 million is not going to disrupt much. I actually would try to entice him with a 2 yr contract or maybe pay base with incentives,  Burrow track record is not great , hate to lose a quality backup

(01-21-2024, 03:49 PM)pally Wrote: I said his MARKET rate was $4-6 million, not that is what I expect him to get from the Bengals.  I expect him to get a performance reward.  Giving him $2 million vs $1 million is not going to break the bank.  The Bengals do not always tender their ERFAs so this is an unusual situation.  With Joe's situation being uncertain let's not screw over his back up for minimal saving

(01-21-2024, 04:04 PM)casear2727 Wrote: You disagreeing with me or anyone else simply proves we are correct.  What math am I wrong about?  We already have his rights for 2 years.

You dont understand how the NFL works, this was explained in an earlier post. 

You can disagree with facts all you want but these are true:

#1.  He is a ERFA - there is a set contracted amount.  If the Bengals want to extend him they could but that would be dumb, he has no choice but to sign with us at that pay rate and next year he will be a RFA, so it is unnecessary.

#2.  He will likely get a bonus from the league for his solid performance like Volson did.

#3.  Happy backup?  Bengals have his rights for a couple years, this is makes zero sense.  Not surprised.

#4.  We are not going to lose a quality backup, he cannot negotiate with other teams.  

(01-21-2024, 06:26 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: you are off on your math so sorry your facts are wrong but that is the norm.. lol

(01-21-2024, 06:26 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: you are off on your math so sorry your facts are wrong but that is the norm.. lol

(01-21-2024, 08:01 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Ok... 


What math is wrong and what facts are wrong?  

(01-21-2024, 06:26 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: you are off on your math so sorry your facts are wrong but that is the norm.. lol

(01-21-2024, 08:01 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Ok... 


What math is wrong and what facts are wrong?  

(01-20-2024, 07:39 PM)schroomytunes Wrote: Ok just curious to see what we could do with our cap luxury this offseason, and what would you do to address our areas of need:

Cap Casulties:
1) Nick Scott- just a liability in our defense 2.3 million savings

Re-Signs: ( all will be inexpensive except for TEE)

1) Jake Browning
2) Cal Adomitis
3) Tanner Hudson
4) Drew Sample
5) Cody Ford
6) ADG
7) Markus Bailey
8) Trent Irwin
9) Tee Higgins- Franchise tag

Outside Free Agents:

1) Noah Fant TE-(Seattle)- I'm sold I think he could really open up the middle of the field.
2) Trent Brown-RT- (NE)- I think he would be a solid 1-2 year guy for the RT spot to groom a draft pick.
3) Eli Apple-CB (Miami)- knows the system, solid vet to add to the secondary.
4) Taylor Rapp-S (Buffalo)- vet. who would fill a solid backup/ST role

Draft- rds (1-4)

1) Rome Odunze-WR (Washington) 6'3 215, will take over for TEE in 2025, elite X receiver.
2) Byron Murphy-DT- (Texas) 6'1 310 IDL, can stuff the run/ rush the passer.
3) Tyler Guyton-RT (Oklahoma) 6'7 330 built for RT, can ease in behind Brown.
4) Cam Hart- CB-(ND) 6'2 202, will replace Awozie as the depth piece

(01-28-2024, 09:03 PM)pulses Wrote: Rather have Onwenu to play RT. No thanks on Eli. I'm cool  with Rapp tho. I love Odunze but ne won't be there. I love Troy Franklin from Oregon 6'3 190 4.3 speed and can run routes.

(01-21-2024, 06:26 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: you are off on your math so sorry your facts are wrong but that is the norm.. lol

(01-21-2024, 08:01 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Ok... 


What math is wrong and what facts are wrong?  

(01-28-2024, 11:58 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Brian Thomas Jr will likely be available at 18 for those interested in a WR.  A much more athletic and faster Tee Higgins.

(02-07-2024, 03:50 AM)pulses Wrote: Rather have Franklin he can run all the routes. Mostly what I see from Thomas was go routes. Overall Franklin is better and faster IMO.

(02-07-2024, 12:58 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I like Franklin as well.  He is listed lower than Thomas likely due to his size before the season, 6-3 but only 170 pounds.  I have seen other listings having him over 185 now.  Thomas is 6'4, 205.  I do think Franklin is more polished.  Either would be nice.  

That said Andre Perrotta made a case for extending Tee:

Here's a Tee Higgins contract projection:

4yrs/$95M ($23.75M AAV)
$40M Fully GRTD at signing
$57.5M in Total guarantees

Annual Cap Hits & Cash Spends:

2024: $9.25M Cap; $28M Cash
2025: $20.25M Cap; $22M Cash
2026: $32.75M Cap; $22.5M Cash
2027: $32.75M Cap; $22.5M Cash

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— Andre Perrotta (@andreperrotta13) February 6, 2024