(02-07-2024, 03:31 PM)Whatever Wrote: Another factor (one folks will kill me for), is do they have enough confidence in Smith or Carman to start at RT at least part of the year while a draft pick develops?

(02-07-2024, 03:37 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Quality starting rookies at OT are usually found in the Top 15 picks, not even the entire 1st round.  Hoping to find a starter in round 2 is risky, expecting a starter any round after that should be considered grounds for firing.  There are always some exceptions, a player goes to the right team with the right oline coach..... but we are far from that.


As I said before, address EVERY starting need in free agency.  Also in free agency address clear depth needs with cheap vets that could be replaced by a rookie or an ascending practice squad player.  

This allows BPA to be taken in every round, this is how solid rosters top to bottom are built.

(02-07-2024, 04:06 PM)The D.O.Z. Wrote: It makes sense to sign Elumeanor. We could probably sign him to a two year deal AND draft his heir apparent at pick 18. I know people want a Day 1 Starter in R1 but getting a guy NOW, in this supposedly deep OT class would be the smart play, in my opinion. Plan for injuries and plan for the future. Say we sign Elumeanor.. we're one injury away from D'Ante Smith / Jackson *Charmin* playing meaningful snaps on a SB contender. I'd MUCH prefer a high pedigree 1Rd draft pick stepping in at that point.

(02-07-2024, 03:42 PM)tms Wrote: I wouldn't mind Eluemunor. Steady option. I'd rather someone like Onwenu, tho. Arguably more upside and he might even come cheaper.

I'm also a wee bit weary of Raiders this year. Not saying the McDaniels saga was their fault- I have no idea what happened- but if you come from a dysfunctional (mutinous?) culture like that, whether you're directly involved or not, I just figure it takes awhile for the residue to wear off. We see ourselves as a SB contender and intangibles are everything. Just my 2c.

(02-07-2024, 04:09 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: I would still like to get a rookie in the first round who can start at RT and continue to get better. Adding this guy from the Raiders doesn’t make the O line that much better and they need to make the line good not just good enough.  
I think there  will be a guy there at 18 who can start and be good (or maybe I’m just hoping) right away. Would love to see them address DT (Madubuike) in FA if they are going to spend $.

That video was just some dumb kid who knows nothing. Obviously a Herbert fan based on the hair style.

(02-07-2024, 04:46 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I believe Onwenu is expected to make much more than Eluemunor.  Onwenu can play guard and tackle, has had excellent grades at both spots and is only 26 years old.   

(02-07-2024, 04:52 PM)ochocincos Wrote: FWIW, Spotrac has Onwenu's estimated value at $13.6 mill AAV.
That might be too high for what the Bengals would be looking to spend at RT.

(02-07-2024, 04:52 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I do not understand this thought process though.  Everyone banging the table that oline is so important to protect Burrow and have a decent run game, and yet the answer is to put all of our eggs in a mid round rookie?  That is such an unnecessary risk.   We can easily sign a guy like Eluemunor AND draft a kid like Mims at 18.   If Mims is ready to go he takes the spot, if not we have a serviceable veteran.  Why in the world would we take such an unnecessary risk?  Unless maybe you believe Smith or Carman will suffice in the event the rookie doesnt pan out?

(02-07-2024, 04:54 PM)casear2727 Wrote: PFF has:
Onwenu at 4 yrs 14.5M
Eluemunor at 2 yrs 7.25M

(02-07-2024, 02:46 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Drafting early based on position of need is a horrible, horrible strategy. It's what causes teams to reach ala Billy Price. 

We need to sure up our needs before the draft and take BPA like last year. Sign a quality DT, OT, and CB in free agency. 

(02-07-2024, 04:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Depends on the cost, for me.

Bengals brought in Nick Scott at 3 years, $12 mill ($4 mill APY), only for him to get supplanted by a 3rd round rookie.
That essentially became wasted money that could have gone toward another position.

Eluemunor just played on a $3 mill contract.
You ok with spending $3-6 mill APY for someone to potentially ride the bench for a year or two?
Or if the 18th pick doesn't actually start their first year or two, are you ok with a 1st rounder playing very little to no snaps their first year or two?

(02-07-2024, 04:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Is that per year, or total across the years?

(02-07-2024, 05:03 PM)jj22 Wrote: I think it definitely depends on the cost. 3-5 million wouldn't stop them from drafting a rookie. So I wouldn't be against that. I wouldn't be against any RT signing, but if it was that and no more room for CB, TE, DT, FS, then I'd rather just draft one, and spread the money out on positions the draft isn't strong at (TE, FS)

(02-07-2024, 05:06 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: The Bengals should have traded Jonah last year and signed Eluemunor like many of us were saying.  They missed that opportunity to get something of value for Jonah, having more cap space and already having Eluemunor on the roster.   They messed that up like they messed up the Tee situation.  

If they can get Eluemunor at 2 yrs 7.25 million, they should do it.  That would ensure the team had a capable RT and allow more flexibility in the draft.

(02-07-2024, 04:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Depends on the cost, for me.

Bengals brought in Nick Scott at 3 years, $12 mill ($4 mill APY), only for him to get supplanted by a 3rd round rookie.
That essentially became wasted money that could have gone toward another position.

Eluemunor just played on a $3 mill contract.
You ok with spending $3-6 mill APY for someone to potentially ride the bench for a year or two?
Or if the 18th pick doesn't actually start their first year or two, are you ok with a 1st rounder playing very little to no snaps their first year or two?

(02-07-2024, 05:02 PM)JoeyB2023 Wrote: Bengals go ragnow if the lions don’t do it right before em and then going early in position of need works out to a All pro.  Just saying

(02-07-2024, 05:10 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Just to clarify, Eluemunor's projection of 7.25 is per year.  The thin OT free agent market likely drives up the prices.