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RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 05:17 PM)depthchart Wrote: The Horses mouth will be Duke and what the Bengals actually do. Yeah, lots I am sure were saying zero chance we get Orlando Brown Jr last year as well. I will keep open minded myself. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - depthchart - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 05:22 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, lots I am sure were saying zero chance we get Orlando Brown Jr last year as well. I respect each Poster that has said firmly that TEE won't be Traded. Each one of them knows a great deal about the Bengals. I just see this as sort of a Teeter Totter type of decision regarding Trading TEE (what they could get for him plus the Money saved) *I would be Stewing on it if I were Duke but maybe he has a Firm decision right now NOT to Trade TEE. I just know that I would Teeter Totter on it right now at the Combine if it were me, especially if Teams were approaching me with Picks. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 05:43 PM)depthchart Wrote: I respect each Poster that has said firmly that TEE won't be Traded. And especially with Tee's agent who sounds about impossible to work with. Nothing against Tee, but it probably would be in our best interest to add another pick or a player rather than paying all that money to Tee this year who might not even stay healthy. Have to go off of history here and Tee is banged up a lot and has a history of pulling his hamstrings now. These injuries tend to reoccur. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - Go Cards - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 04:33 PM)depthchart Wrote: 1. So the 17 Teams picking ahead of the Bengals have enough rookie #1 options not to want TEE even when some Teams may Plus the Bengals would have Tee's $20 million to spend on a "proven" FA that everybody is saying the Bengals covet so much. A trade gets both a extra pick and a big FA with Tee's tag money alone. Still would have the rest of there extra cap money and the added $30 million to spend as well. Those that think trading him takes the Bengals out of being a SB contender are just not opening their eyes. Both ways can work, sign or trade. The Bengals can get a very good player for $21 million without question and have an extra late 1st or early 2nd round pick. The only thing that will prevent Bengals from being a SB contender is if a tagged unhappy Tee shows up and tries to play safe and not get hurt. To me it is simple, sign him or trade him. Holding him hostage is not the right move, holding him hostage a 2nd year is even crueler to him. We've already seen this with Green and Bates when they just played not to get hurt and mailed it in, and who could blame them for not going all in for a team about to discard them ? Tee deserves much better than that anyway. Don't get why so many are siding with the elite rich over the employee getting what he deserves in his very small window of opportunity called an NFL career. He deserves his longterm contract and the only real question should be is it from the Bengals or not. Either the Bengals can afford him or not. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - puddycat - 02-29-2024 Tee wants to be here (unlike Bates) and his teammates want him here. Bengals saw what happened when they lost two safeties in one year; they don't want to repeat that experience at WR. No one is happy if Tee has another down year, and yet absent major injury (Tee's not a speed guy) his price will still be high next year. If Tee isn't interested in a 3-4 yr. deal for <$25M@ with him turning 28/29 for his next free agency, I see this as his last year here. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - Go Cards - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 05:17 PM)depthchart Wrote: The Horses mouth will be Duke and what the Bengals actually do. Vegas has built an empire on people betting slam dunks that never happened. Plus the only reason this talk is alive is because he was tagged in lieu of being signed, which was what everybody expected, including Tee. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 06:30 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Plus the Bengals would have Tee's $20 million to spend on a "proven" FA that everybody is saying the Bengals covet so much. A trade gets both a extra pick and a big FA with Tee's tag money alone. Still would have the rest of there extra cap money and the added $30 million to spend as well. Nailed it. ![]() RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - depthchart - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 06:30 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Those that think trading him takes the Bengals out of being a SB contender are just not opening their eyes. Both ways can work, sign or trade. The Bengals can get a very good player for $21 million without question and have an extra late 1st or early 2nd round pick. I agree that either sign or trade can work as it relates to 2024 Super Bowl contention. I also agree with some earlier statements that you have made about how TEE could be unhappy if Forced to play on the Tag and how him possibly being unhappy on the Tag could then hamper a Super Bowl run. Before making this somewhat controversial Thread, I had been thinking in terms of Percentages like this about TEE's future. 50% chance TEE gets forced to play for the Bengals in 2024 under the Tag 25% chance TEE gets signed Longer Term by the Bengals 25% chance TEE gets Traded and plays the 2024 Season for another Team *I never stewed over the percentages but maybe a 2024 Super Bowl contention can be in play with any of the above 3 TEE outcomes. Just wonder which of the 3 would really be best for 2024 and then best for 2025, 2026 etc. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - GodFather - 02-29-2024 Does anyone think the FO has learned its lesson with the Bates ordeal? I have zero confidence they have.. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - SunsetBengal - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 09:26 PM)GodFather Wrote: Does anyone think the FO has learned its lesson with the Bates ordeal? The team calculated that move with the thoughts of drafting in advance.(full disclosure, I was over the top pissed off that they allowed both Bates and Bell to walk in the same offseason) The process of development takes a few years. Bates did not become a household name as a rookie, or even as a second year guy. Your "zero confidence" rating really means jack shit. The team invested high picks in both Hill and Battle, they will become what we had gotten used to. If not, Coach Lou is a secondary coach at his core, and he will pick someone that will make up the difference. There are plenty of good Safeties in this year's draft. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - pulses - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 09:43 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The team calculated that move with the thoughts of drafting in advance.(full disclosure, I was over the top pissed off that they allowed both Bates and Bell to walk in the same offseason) The process of development takes a few years. Bates did not become a household name as a rookie, or even as a second year guy. Your "zero confidence" rating really means jack shit. The team invested high picks in both Hill and Battle, they will become what we had gotten used to. If not, Coach Lou is a secondary coach at his core, and he will pick someone that will make up the difference. There are plenty of good Safeties in this year's draft. I like Jaden Hicks and Kitan Oladapo in early day 3. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - SunsetBengal - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 09:54 PM)pulses Wrote: I like Jaden Hicks and Kitan Oladapo in early day 3. Or even Kitchens, who had 10 INTs the past two seasons. There's your deep Safety to allow Hill to transition to Nickle CB. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - pulses - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 09:56 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Or even Kitchens, who had 10 INTs the past two seasons. There's your deep Safety to allow Hill to transition to Nickle CB. Yeah I like Kinchens too. I think people forget we have Tycen ANderson coming back as well. If that dude can stay healthy he is gonna help this defense. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - jason - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 06:30 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Plus the Bengals would have Tee's $20 million to spend on a "proven" FA that everybody is saying the Bengals covet so much. A trade gets both a extra pick and a big FA with Tee's tag money alone. Still would have the rest of there extra cap money and the added $30 million to spend as well. Rolling in 20 million for the year doesn't seem like siding with the rich to me. Yeah he could suffer catastrophic injury on the tag, but he more than likely won't. Tee Higgins has never made close to that figure and it sets him for life... Well it sets a wise man up for life. Then people turn around and call Tee's agent a jerk or punk because he goes hard for his client. To me that's siding with the ultra rich owners. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - SunsetBengal - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 10:11 PM)jason Wrote: Rolling in 20 million for the year doesn't seem like siding with the rich to me. Yeah he could suffer catastrophic injury on the tag, but he more than likely won't. Tee Higgins has never made close to that figure and it sets him for life... Well it sets a wise man up for life. Yeah, you want to help Tee's agent establish the WR2 market as starting at $20M? He likely won't suffer a catastrophic injury, but I'd be surprised if he didn't have another hamstring pop up at a crucial point in the season. Just let him go, and test the waters as a true WR1, because that's what he and his agent feel he is worth. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - pulses - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 10:36 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, you want to help Tee's agent establish the WR2 market as starting at $20M? He likely won't suffer a catastrophic injury, but I'd be surprised if he didn't have another hamstring pop up at a crucial point in the season. Just let him go, and test the waters as a true WR1, because that's what he and his agent feel he is worth. Tag and trade and move on. Ship him to the Giants for a 2nd and WR Darius Slayton.....done deal ( and before some of you laugh go check out Slayton's stats playing with a shitty QB and what he would do here with Burrow)...and oh by the way he averages a hair more per catch than Higgins and he's making 7 or 8 mill and he's only 27 go figure a good replacement for a 1/3 of what Tee wants ![]() RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - Frank Booth - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 10:58 PM)pulses Wrote: Tag and trade and move on. Ship him to the Giants for a 2nd and WR Darius Slayton.....done deal ( and before some of you laugh go check out Slayton's stats playing with a shitty QB and what he would do here with Burrow)...and oh by the way he averages a hair more per catch than Higgins and he's making 7 or 8 mill and he's only 27 go figure a good replacement for a 1/3 of what Tee wants so the Giants are gonna pay more and give up a 2nd for a guy who averages a hair less than Slayton per catch? is this what you proposed? RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - SunsetBengal - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 10:58 PM)pulses Wrote: Tag and trade and move on. Ship him to the Giants for a 2nd and WR Darius Slayton.....done deal ( and before some of you laugh go check out Slayton's stats playing with a shitty QB and what he would do here with Burrow)...and oh by the way he averages a hair more per catch than Higgins and he's making 7 or 8 mill and he's only 27 go figure a good replacement for a 1/3 of what Tee wants Most around here won't agree with your assessment, but I think that something like that would make perfect sense. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - 007BengalsFan - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 10:11 PM)jason Wrote: Rolling in 20 million for the year doesn't seem like siding with the rich to me. Yeah he could suffer catastrophic injury on the tag, but he more than likely won't. Tee Higgins has never made close to that figure and it sets him for life... Well it sets a wise man up for life. One would think the 8.6 million he has already made would set a wise man up for life. (02-29-2024, 10:11 PM)jason Wrote: ...Then people turn around and call Tee's agent a jerk or punk because he goes hard for his client. To me that's siding with the ultra rich owners. The owners work with the cap they are given. The more you pay one person means the less you can pay someone else. That money all comes out of a finite cap amount. If they dont have to pay Higgins that 22 million, they can use that money on someone else. RE: Duke's thoughts of maybe Trading TEE could be PEAKING at the Combine - NATI BENGALS - 02-29-2024 (02-29-2024, 03:31 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: No way is he getting tagged 2x Why? 21 mil this year 120% raise for tagging twice in a row 25 mil next =46 mil rough estimate DK metcalf cap hits next two years 24.5 29.5 = Tee would be cheaper even with consecutive franchise tags |