(06-11-2024, 11:09 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I often hear players mention the importance of that first full offseason with their team, and describe how it really helps them to advance from rookie to second year player. With Iosivas being a cerebral type of guy, I could see him really benefitting from the class/film room side of the offseason stuff as much as the physical training.

(06-11-2024, 11:09 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I often hear players mention the importance of that first full offseason with their team, and describe how it really helps them to advance from rookie to second year player. With Iosivas being a cerebral type of guy, I could see him really benefitting from the class/film room side of the offseason stuff as much as the physical training.

(06-10-2024, 09:50 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I think so too.
The dude has much more big play ability than his 7.7 YPR from last year.
I think (or hope) he'll have around 300-400 yards this year, which would be an increase from his 116 his rookie year.
Not starter caliber obviously, but I think this year will be a mix of Iosivas, Irwin, Burton, and Jones pretty across the board for WR3 targets.
Collectively, these receivers after Higgins and Chase should be able to put up 700+ yards, and even more if there's a lengthy injury to Chase and/or Higgins.

(06-12-2024, 09:33 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: This is interesting.  I think we need to see more than 700 yards from our “other receivers”.  

I’m thinking this group could be similar to a mix of guys from the 2005 bengals and the 2009-2011 group.  

2005 had Chad and TJ as Alphas.  So I think those two alpha types are obviously Chase and Higgins.

The rest of the group reminds me of some sort of combo of Henry, Caldwell, Simpson and Shipley.  

Those guys had seasons of:
31 for 422 and 6 (Henry RIP, 2005), Burton/yoshi?
52 for 600 and 3 (Shipley, 2010), Jones/irwin?
41 for 432 and 3 (Caldwell, 2009), Jones/irwin?
50 for 725 and 4 (Simpson, 2011), Burton/Yoshi?


Obviously I picked the best season from each of those guys, but if we can get two of those types of seasons (call it 80%) from the four guys, that would Be a great year. I also see similar skill sets.  We certainly won’t get all four to happen in one year, simply not enough to go around.  

The one that really could set us apart is if we could get a similar season to another guy from that 2009-2011 group in Jermaine Gresham. Across his first 5 seasons he averaged 56 for 544 and 5. Could Mike G give us more that type of season?

(06-12-2024, 08:37 AM)Synric Wrote: I expected Andrei Iosivas to come in looking like a monster year two because his full off-season is dedicated to football instead of Track.... but will he look like Tarzan and play like Jane? Yoshi's issues were his ability to play physical through the DB, compete for space at the catch, and make tough catches through contact. 

I'm excited to see Yoshi in year two because he is such a gifted athlete with excellent size, and with more snaps opening up on the outside because Chase will see an increased role in the slot Yoshi will get his chance. 

(06-12-2024, 08:37 AM)Synric Wrote: I expected Andrei Iosivas to come in looking like a monster year two because his full off-season is dedicated to football instead of Track.... but will he look like Tarzan and play like Jane? Yoshi's issues were his ability to play physical through the DB, compete for space at the catch, and make tough catches through contact. 

I'm excited to see Yoshi in year two because he is such a gifted athlete with excellent size, and with more snaps opening up on the outside because Chase will see an increased role in the slot Yoshi will get his chance. 

(06-12-2024, 10:31 AM)Whatever Wrote: Eh, that's a bit off because track is a spring sport and Yoshi did his last track event in April of '22, so aside from some overlap during spring practice, he was focused on football solely the rest of the year, as well as during his rookie campaign. 

(06-12-2024, 09:33 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: This is interesting.  I think we need to see more than 700 yards from our “other receivers”.  

I’m thinking this group could be similar to a mix of guys from the 2005 bengals and the 2009-2011 group.  

2005 had Chad and TJ as Alphas.  So I think those two alpha types are obviously Chase and Higgins.

The rest of the group reminds me of some sort of combo of Henry, Caldwell, Simpson and Shipley.  

Those guys had seasons of:
31 for 422 and 6 (Henry RIP, 2005), Burton/yoshi?
52 for 600 and 3 (Shipley, 2010), Jones/irwin?
41 for 432 and 3 (Caldwell, 2009), Jones/irwin?
50 for 725 and 4 (Simpson, 2011), Burton/Yoshi?


Obviously I picked the best season from each of those guys, but if we can get two of those types of seasons (call it 80%) from the four guys, that would Be a great year. I also see similar skill sets.  We certainly won’t get all four to happen in one year, simply not enough to go around.  

The one that really could set us apart is if we could get a similar season to another guy from that 2009-2011 group in Jermaine Gresham. Across his first 5 seasons he averaged 56 for 544 and 5. Could Mike G give us more that type of season?

(06-13-2024, 01:14 PM)grampahol Wrote: 700 yards isn't terrible, but if you have 5 receivers outside of your number one and two all getting a minimum of 700+ you have something special then. I don't necessarily expect that to happen, but if it does the team is in a good place.