(07-05-2024, 05:58 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I’m a technical consultant and yeah, if I work out if state, I have to pay taxes to that state. I don’t travel much but some of the guys do. And yes, it’s a pain in the ass for them.

(07-05-2024, 05:27 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Are you sure about this? Usually, you pay the taxes in the state that you live in. Or else everyone who travels for work would have to file taxes out the wazoo. When I lived in a hotel in Mississippi for 9 months out of the year, my home work location was Ohio. I didn't have to pay taxes to Mississippi. Well, except for your standard taxes on purchases.

(07-05-2024, 05:58 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I’m a technical consultant and yeah, if I work out if state, I have to pay taxes to that state. I don’t travel much but some of the guys do. And yes, it’s a pain in the ass for them.

(07-05-2024, 05:58 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I’m a technical consultant and yeah, if I work out if state, I have to pay taxes to that state. I don’t travel much but some of the guys do. And yes, it’s a pain in the ass for them.

(07-05-2024, 06:30 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'm no tax expert but I think it depends on the location of your employer.

In Harley's case He most likely was paid by a home company and in Killer's case he most likely was paid by a sub-contractor in the state to which he travelled 

Bengals player are paid by an employer whose legal address is in OH. I doubt they have to pay taxes to every state they have away games

(07-05-2024, 06:39 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: The difference may be that you probably have to file a 1099 and I don't. 

Quote:For away games, all professional athletes are subject to the jock tax, which income-taxing states assess on all income earned by a professional athlete for pre-season, regular season, playoff, championship, and even Pro Bowl games. This means if a rookie is drafted to the Dallas Cowboys, he’ll be subject to an income tax on the salary he earns any time he faces off against the Cowboys’ longtime rivals—the Philadelphia Eagles. Like many other states and cities, both Pennsylvania and Philadelphia assess a jock tax on nonresident athletes.

Quote:In general, people who earn a living by providing services are subject to tax in the state where they provide those services as well as in their resident state. Professional athletes, as well as the coaches, trainers, and other personnel traveling with the team, must allocate their salary to the various states where the team plays or practices.

(07-05-2024, 07:11 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: https://news.bloombergtax.com/tax-insights-and-commentary/nfl-draft-picks-pay-hinges-on-wildly-different-state-tax-rates

(07-05-2024, 04:21 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Just throwing this out there when you say $705k....

Until the player make the final cuts and finishes Week 1 to get their first ~$39,000 paycheck (of which they see significantly less after taxes as a larger earner), they're still poor unless they got a significant signing bonus, and even then they're in constant threat of never making any more money from the NFL again.

A quick google says an average nutritionist in Ohio makes $57,500 per year. If you are a top tier professional athlete, you really don't want an "average" person.

Unless you're a very high draft pick, you really don't have the job security and funds saved up to hire someone that's going to cost you well over $60k/yr (possibly much much more as I am not sure if you'd have to pay towards healthcare and the like depending on the state, as they would be your employee) until your second contract. Hiring people is expensive.

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After all the taxes, the players take home a whole lot less. In Cincinnati, if you make $705k, you're taking home $424k after Federal, FICA, State, and Local taxes. Of course you actually end up having to file taxes for every state you play in. So while you'd have a marginal 3.75% State taxes in Ohio for the 8 games you played there, if you play @Chargers and @Rams that year, that's 2 games with California's 13.3% cutting into those week's paychecks.

So you can see how a guy who has no year-to-year employment guarantee, or even week-to-week employment guarantee, can't afford to be putting 14-23.5% of their entire year's take-home salary on hiring someone.

(07-06-2024, 10:30 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: https://search.app/TEq2EzwFWJRuTNZV8

(07-07-2024, 02:03 AM)Joelist Wrote: The report is outdated. Remember the Bengals are doing a rip and replace on the locker rooms and showers right now.

https://www.bengals.com/news/upgrades-paycor-stadium-locker-room-field-2024-season

(07-05-2024, 04:21 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Just throwing this out there when you say $705k....

Until the player make the final cuts and finishes Week 1 to get their first ~$39,000 paycheck (of which they see significantly less after taxes as a larger earner), they're still poor unless they got a significant signing bonus, and even then they're in constant threat of never making any more money from the NFL again.

A quick google says an average nutritionist in Ohio makes $57,500 per year. If you are a top tier professional athlete, you really don't want an "average" person.

Unless you're a very high draft pick, you really don't have the job security and funds saved up to hire someone that's going to cost you well over $60k/yr (possibly much much more as I am not sure if you'd have to pay towards healthcare and the like depending on the state, as they would be your employee) until your second contract. Hiring people is expensive.

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After all the taxes, the players take home a whole lot less. In Cincinnati, if you make $705k, you're taking home $424k after Federal, FICA, State, and Local taxes. Of course you actually end up having to file taxes for every state you play in. So while you'd have a marginal 3.75% State taxes in Ohio for the 8 games you played there, if you play @Chargers and @Rams that year, that's 2 games with California's 13.3% cutting into those week's paychecks.

So you can see how a guy who has no year-to-year employment guarantee, or even week-to-week employment guarantee, can't afford to be putting 14-23.5% of their entire year's take-home salary on hiring someone.

(07-04-2024, 10:19 PM)SouthernFan Wrote: This is just a rehashing of the same story that ran when the crybaby NFLPA player survey first came out. We don’t know what if anything may have changed since then. Yes, it would be in the team’s best interests to make nutritious food and nutrition advice available to players, but the idea that “while some players can invest in their bodies year-round using personal chefs and nutritionists, not all players can afford it and rely on teams to provide those services, especially during the season” is pure BS. The league minimums range from $795,000 (rookie) to $1.255 million (7+ yr vet). Even practice squad players make from $12,000 to $20,600 per week during the season. These are grown men and the team is not their Mom or Dad.

Sorry, end rant. 

(07-05-2024, 04:21 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: A quick google says an average nutritionist in Ohio makes $57,500 per year. If you are a top tier professional athlete, you really don't want an "average" person.

Unless you're a very high draft pick, you really don't have the job security and funds saved up to hire someone that's going to cost you well over $60k/yr (possibly much much more as I am not sure if you'd have to pay towards healthcare and the like depending on the state, as they would be your employee) until your second contract. Hiring people is expensive.

So you can see how a guy who has no year-to-year employment guarantee, or even week-to-week employment guarantee, can't afford to be putting 14-23.5% of their entire year's take-home salary on hiring someone.