(09-24-2024, 10:08 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Yeah. So it's about roles right. Chide was a capable #1 until he got hurt.

Hilton was a good #3.

Then you had Apple and CTB.

Now 2 of those guys are gone and CTB is playing as the #1 CB and Dax Hill as the #2. While they aren't rookies, this is a massive role switch. With time they might be good.

Then, you have 2 different safeties from last year.

(09-24-2024, 09:44 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The Good: The offense was zinging. I think All has potential to be a really good TE. Chase looked good. Burrow looked sharp. We didn't put once. Probably Iovisas best game, but I don't know that he'll be good enough to replace Tee next year.

The Bad: Brown injured. He looked like a pretzel on the ground. Not expecting it to be good. He has an injury history.

The Ugly: The defense looks terrible. The defensive line is terrible. I think Hendrickson is the only lineman that would start on another team.

The run defense sucked before Reader. It sucks without him. (Although he's been hurt still and I don't think he plays yet for the Lions.)

I don't know that we have a #1 or #2 caliber CB on the Roster. Our safeties are mediocre. Bell needs a ballhawk like Bates by him. Stone is not that. Stone is essentially Nick Scott...which I think a lot of us knew.

Our recent high draft picks do not look like they were good picks.

Wilson and Pratt look slow out there, but I think some of the issue is that the defensive line is letting blockers get to them.

(09-24-2024, 01:09 PM)No-huddle Joe Wrote: Brown out for the year.   Mims is going to get baptized under fire.

(09-24-2024, 09:45 AM)Bengalitis Wrote: that 240 million investment was a bad investment perhaps.. we lost so much talent because of that targeted investment.  I fear we may end up with the Carson syndrome in the end. 

(09-24-2024, 01:05 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Unlike the wrist slitters, I don't see us being anywhere near done. The defense has been playing good enough up until last night when we were missing both starting DT's and one of the backups was playing with a clubbed hand. They laid an egg, it happens. The offense has been looking pretty good, and both Yoshi and Chase had good games last night. Washington has shown it's better than people thought, and not just against us, as they haven't punted in two straight games.
The AFCN is still up for grabs.
Stealers- they are 3-0, but they are doing it with defense. They've played the Falcons, Broncos and Chargers, and managed to put 18, 13, and 20 points on the board respectively. That's not going to get it done with their schedule as the season progresses.
Ravens 1-2. Tucker is struggling this year. They are 1 game ahead of us.
Browns 1-2 They lost Chubb, and now it looks like Garrett may be having nerve problems in his feet and legs and is out. Teller will be out for multiple weeks and it's unclear when Njoku will be back.
The Bengals need Hill and Rankins back, and for the new guy to get back in shape, but point is, the Bengals are still as much in it as the rest of the North. Win the north, you're in the playoffs. Get hot going into the playoffs, as Taylor's teams seem to do, and anything can happen.

(09-24-2024, 01:44 PM)bengalsboy Wrote: They are already 3 games behind the Steelers.That is a lot of ground to make up.

(09-24-2024, 01:05 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Unlike the wrist slitters, I don't see us being anywhere near done. The defense has been playing good enough up until last night when we were missing both starting DT's and one of the backups was playing with a clubbed hand. They laid an egg, it happens. The offense has been looking pretty good, and both Yoshi and Chase had good games last night. Washington has shown it's better than people thought, and not just against us, as they haven't punted in two straight games.
The AFCN is still up for grabs.
Stealers- they are 3-0, but they are doing it with defense. They've played the Falcons, Broncos and Chargers, and managed to put 18, 13, and 20 points on the board respectively. That's not going to get it done with their schedule as the season progresses.
Ravens 1-2. Tucker is struggling this year. They are 1 game ahead of us.
Browns 1-2 They lost Chubb, and now it looks like Garrett may be having nerve problems in his feet and legs and is out. Teller will be out for multiple weeks and it's unclear when Njoku will be back.
The Bengals need Hill and Rankins back, and for the new guy to get back in shape, but point is, the Bengals are still as much in it as the rest of the North. Win the north, you're in the playoffs. Get hot going into the playoffs, as Taylor's teams seem to do, and anything can happen.

(09-24-2024, 05:32 PM)chopperbobby Wrote: Ravens are going to set rushing records agents us.  Lamar could make MVP on the up coming game.

(09-24-2024, 05:40 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Like Mahomes did?

(09-24-2024, 09:17 AM)Go Cards Wrote: The Good

It's only 3 games into a long season and we've been here before. Actually the Good may be coming by default per 10 of the 16 AFC teams have losing records. The Wildcard teams to beat presently are the Jets 2-1, Chargers 2-1, and probably the 1-2 Ravens.

The Bengals can get back in this if they can just get off the schneid and get rolling. The good news is that the Bengals remaining schedule are against teams that currently  own a combined losing record of 19-23.
If you removed the undefeated steelers (which I'm not scared of) then the teams combined records are 13-23. The AFC is waiting for the Bengals to catch up if they would only do their part.

The Bad

These lethargic starts Zac's Bengals keep coming out of the gate in are just bad. You can not keep spotting the entire NFL a head start and expect to make it up by playoff time yearly. Zac is 5-13 in his first 3 games of the season since becoming the Bengals HC losing to rookies and 2nd string QB's all along the way. He has only had a winning record once in first 3 games, and that was the year the Bengals went to the SB.
Still support Zac as HC but have never supported him as OC. Understand wanting to stay healthy but can not just throw away games early every year to do so. Figure something else out please.


The Fugly

The Defense is a porous sieve that can not slow the run at all and do not see any waving of a wand that can rectify this problem. Nor pass per Daniels completed all but 2 of his passes last night. The Bengals just lost two home games against the 2nd and 3rd worse teams in the entire NFL last season, and both were featuring rookie QB's, both at HOME. Washington never even had to punt. WASHINGTON, palm meet forehead.
I once trusted in Lou but that has been proven to be a mistake on my part. Although he has been hit the hardest with FA departures, yet still this is unacceptable not getting hardly any production out a slew of high draft picks.

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In closing I am merely venting to stay sane. The defense was not the problem against the Patriots, plus played well enough against KC before this Commodore debacle last night. Commodore was the wrong insult to hurl per the defense was anything but a Brick House on prime-time Monday Night Football for the whole world to see.
The team just needs to somehow find it's chemistry together and get the ball rolling. The Bengals play a manageable schedule and the AFC as a whole is stuck in the mud coming out of the gate cushioning the Bengals current ineptitude somewhat by giving them a better chance to catch up than an 0-3 start deserves. Got to find some traction and get back into the mix before the playoff picture tumbles out of control the opposite direction. Think the Bengals climb the ladder once again and are in the playoff picture by seasons end. Just hope the 0-3 ball & chain does not cause them to fall just short when they arrive.

Not throwing in the towel yet, but feel like my confidence has taken a sucker punch immediately following the handshake.

(09-25-2024, 12:34 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Pretty much nailed my thoughts. The only things I can say that makes me feel better about our run Defense is we haven't seen McKinnley 
Jackson yet and Kris Jenkins was clearly hampered by the club on his hand. We also have the waiver wire and could make a trade. I know 
we never make trades in the middle of the season but us being 0-3 could change this for all we know.

Long season and if we can fix our run Defense or at least get it under control we could sneak into the Playoffs no problem, especially with
the way the Offense has came around. We score enough points that will make teams go away from the run.

(09-24-2024, 09:37 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: Well we cant keep starting super slow and expect magical runs to save us....  Likely missing the playoffs 2 years in a row with a 240mil qb

(09-24-2024, 12:38 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote: And those AFCN teams are going to run it down our throat till this unit shows it can stop it. 

(09-25-2024, 02:37 PM)kalibengal Wrote: A trade for a proven run stopping DT would  be a nice move right about now. I heard the Denver DT  Jones maybe available??
Can we also now talk about our Lbs? Im sorry but Wilson and Pratt magic is gone...not making many noticeable plays. look slow and missing tackles
We need to look for fresh talent there. I say put in the preseason phenom Njongmeta guy in. It cant hurt to send a message and shake things up a bit

(09-24-2024, 09:17 AM)Go Cards Wrote: The Good

It's only 3 games into a long season and we've been here before. Actually the Good may be coming by default per 10 of the 16 AFC teams have losing records. The Wildcard teams to beat presently are the Jets 2-1, Chargers 2-1, and probably the 1-2 Ravens.

The Bengals can get back in this if they can just get off the schneid and get rolling. The good news is that the Bengals remaining schedule are against teams that currently  own a combined losing record of 19-23.
If you removed the undefeated steelers (which I'm not scared of) then the teams combined records are 13-23. The AFC is waiting for the Bengals to catch up if they would only do their part.

The Bad

These lethargic starts Zac's Bengals keep coming out of the gate in are just bad. You can not keep spotting the entire NFL a head start and expect to make it up by playoff time yearly. Zac is 5-13 in his first 3 games of the season since becoming the Bengals HC losing to rookies and 2nd string QB's all along the way. He has only had a winning record once in first 3 games, and that was the year the Bengals went to the SB.
Still support Zac as HC but have never supported him as OC. Understand wanting to stay healthy but can not just throw away games early every year to do so. Figure something else out please.


The Fugly

The Defense is a porous sieve that can not slow the run at all and do not see any waving of a wand that can rectify this problem. Nor pass per Daniels completed all but 2 of his passes last night. The Bengals just lost two home games against the 2nd and 3rd worse teams in the entire NFL last season, and both were featuring rookie QB's, both at HOME. Washington never even had to punt. WASHINGTON, palm meet forehead.
I once trusted in Lou but that has been proven to be a mistake on my part. Although he has been hit the hardest with FA departures, yet still this is unacceptable not getting hardly any production out a slew of high draft picks.

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In closing I am merely venting to stay sane. The defense was not the problem against the Patriots, plus played well enough against KC before this Commodore debacle last night. Commodore was the wrong insult to hurl per the defense was anything but a Brick House on prime-time Monday Night Football for the whole world to see.
The team just needs to somehow find it's chemistry together and get the ball rolling. The Bengals play a manageable schedule and the AFC as a whole is stuck in the mud coming out of the gate cushioning the Bengals current ineptitude somewhat by giving them a better chance to catch up than an 0-3 start deserves. Got to find some traction and get back into the mix before the playoff picture tumbles out of control the opposite direction. Think the Bengals climb the ladder once again and are in the playoff picture by seasons end. Just hope the 0-3 ball & chain does not cause them to fall just short when they arrive.

Not throwing in the towel yet, but feel like my confidence has taken a sucker punch immediately following the handshake.

(09-25-2024, 02:37 PM)kalibengal Wrote: A trade for a proven run stopping DT would  be a nice move right about now. I heard the Denver DT  Jones maybe available??
Can we also now talk about our Lbs? Im sorry but Wilson and Pratt magic is gone...not making many noticeable plays. look slow and missing tackles
We need to look for fresh talent there. I say put in the preseason phenom Njongmeta guy in. It cant hurt to send a message and shake things up a bit

(09-27-2024, 08:12 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Who's linebackers are you watching???

Bengals | Germaine Pratt, Logan Wilson top charts (fantasyguru.com)