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RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - ERIC1 - 09-27-2024

(09-27-2024, 01:35 AM)tms Wrote: I’ve been thinking about this too, even before the losses. I think the answer is yes. At least in the sense that I don’t remember a coach who’s been this loose, this consistently, who’s won the big prize. At some point he’s gonna need to put his foot down. Has he done that? Maybe, but I haven’t seen (or even heard) anything that would suggest that he has, and that could pose a problem down the road. It’s a fine balance- but it needs to be a balance. I don’t think it’s healthy to sit on one extreme (buddy) or the other (tyrant).

because you have not seen it does not mean that its not happening

RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - THE PISTONS - 09-27-2024

One point I want to make is we can say it's a personnel issue because the drafted guys suck...but were they bad picks? Or did the coaches not develop them because of soft practices, etc?

RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - SunsetBengal - 09-27-2024

(09-27-2024, 10:19 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: One point I want to make is we can say it's a personnel issue because the drafted guys suck...but were they bad picks? Or did the coaches not develop them because of soft practices, etc?

That is a good point, definitely one worth discussion. As to my opinion on that question, I feel like it's some of each. Around the league we've seen many guys over the years that were really good, even in some cases superstars at the collegiate level who turn out to just not be able to cut it in the NFL. Conversely, I also feel that a drop in overall team quality occurs from the reduced number of padded practices and sitting starters through preseason. Sure, it cuts down on some injuries before the season starts, but the drop off in OL cohesiveness and body tempering attained from going hard in practice/preseason games is leading to slow starts on offense and injuries to defenders when the live action begins.

RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-27-2024

(09-27-2024, 10:02 AM)Nately120 Wrote: People did bat an eye, but the Chiefs went on the win the SB, so it became ok.


To the victors go the spoils....

RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - tms - 09-27-2024

(09-27-2024, 10:05 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: because you have not seen it does not mean that its not happening

You missed the “Has he done that? Maybe, but I haven’t seen it” part lol

RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - 740Bengal - 09-27-2024

No he just thinks he's the smartest person in the room when he usually is the opposite.

RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - GodFather - 09-27-2024

(09-26-2024, 10:08 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: That being said, is it time for ZT to stop being such a players coach?

Well, if he does your going to have an unhappy locker room full of players when he tells them there will be no more "Pancake Tuesday's" going forward!

RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - Tomkat - 09-27-2024

(09-26-2024, 10:14 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: ...By balance, I mean if the HC is going to be the nice guy, then the DC should likely be a hardcore taskmaster and the OC should be cold, calculating and have every trivial detail planned out...

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RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - 007BengalsFan - 09-27-2024

(09-27-2024, 10:19 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: One point I want to make is we can say it's a personnel issue because the drafted guys suck...but were they bad picks? Or did the coaches not develop them because of soft practices, etc?

The Bengals have one of the smallest scouting departments in the NFL.  They dont seem to do as well as other teams drafting and this was happening long before Zac Taylor got here.  I think its mainly a front office problem.  I dont think you can blame the coaches for bad scouting because they spend most of their time coaching the players and preparing for the next game. 

RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - Nately120 - 09-27-2024

(09-27-2024, 02:46 PM)Tomkat Wrote: [Image: lkssJgJ.jpeg]

I don't know who that is, but everyone knows the REAL taskmaster is Kevin "The Prince Of Darkness" Sullivan.

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RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - Tomkat - 09-27-2024

(09-27-2024, 03:14 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I don't know who that is...

Whatever you do... do NOT start watching the show "Taskmaster" available on YouTube.  It is extremely addicting!

Here's just a little sample...




RE: Has ZT become too much of a players coach? - ERIC1 - 09-27-2024

(09-27-2024, 02:20 PM)740Bengal Wrote: No he just thinks he's the smartest person in the room when he usually is the opposite.

he took us to the superbowl 3 years ago...he took us to the conference championships 2 years ago..and had burrow not been injured last year..we most likely would have been in the playoffs..pretty damn impressive..now to the "slow starts"..I still dont understand that