(10-07-2024, 01:50 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Playing for a 53 yard FG in overtime isn't the sort of thing you expect when your QB has 5 TDs and a 137 rating and your top WR has nearly 200 yards on the day.  Burrow passing there isn't a guaranteed victory I'll admit, but how anyone could be worried about keeping the ball in his hands in that situation is beyond me. And kickers are making long ass FGs now and McPherson is one of the best BUT still...playing for a 53 yard FG try in OT is the sort of thing you do when your QB is crap or having a shaky day and you are trying to just drag his corpse across the finish line.

Of course, I'm now remembering that the Ravens had the ball first and fumbled so it makes a bit more sense to play for a FG but 53 yards?  Ehh, that's borderline but I will admit it's not as stupid as I thought when I started typing this.

I was at that new Beetlejuice movie with the wife during all this and I was checking my phone and seeing the Bengals that close in OT after the Ravens had the ball I figured it'd be a 95% Bengals victory and about a 5% chance of him missing and it being a tie.  When I checked my phone a bit later and saw the expected score of 41-38 with the Ravens on top I had to wonder what the hell happened. 

(10-07-2024, 01:49 PM)Wyche Wrote: This .....plus, WTF are we paying McPherson that extension for if not to win games? 

(10-07-2024, 01:49 PM)PhilHos Wrote: You do realize we only lost on that FG because of a bad snap/hold, right?

(10-07-2024, 01:53 PM)Nately120 Wrote: In all fairness, we're paying Burrow more this year than McPherson will make in what...20+ years?  I get that we're paying McPherson, but we are simultaneously sidestepping the real money maker here. 

(10-07-2024, 01:50 PM)PhilHos Wrote: According to the announcers on TV, the wind was at McPherson's back. 

(10-07-2024, 01:51 PM)Wyche Wrote: Except he threw an interception in the red zone the drive prior......

(10-07-2024, 01:54 PM)Wyche Wrote: He had already choked.....so ......

(10-07-2024, 01:51 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Yup. I just can't imagine not trusting Peyton Manning or Tom Brady to get you closer and just taking the ball out of their hands. Let alone if they were red-hot.

(10-07-2024, 01:50 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Playing for a 53 yard FG in overtime isn't the sort of thing you expect when your QB has 5 TDs and a 137 rating and your top WR has nearly 200 yards on the day.  Burrow passing there isn't a guaranteed victory I'll admit, but how anyone could be worried about keeping the ball in his hands in that situation is beyond me. And kickers are making long ass FGs now and McPherson is one of the best BUT still...playing for a 53 yard FG try in OT is the sort of thing you do when your QB is crap or having a shaky day and you are trying to just drag his corpse across the finish line.

Of course, I'm now remembering that the Ravens had the ball first and fumbled so it makes a bit more sense to play for a FG but 53 yards?  Ehh, that's borderline but I will admit it's not as stupid as I thought when I started typing this.

I was at that new Beetlejuice movie with the wife during all this and I was checking my phone and seeing the Bengals that close in OT after the Ravens had the ball I figured it'd be a 95% Bengals victory and about a 5% chance of him missing and it being a tie.  When I checked my phone a bit later and saw the expected score of 41-38 with the Ravens on top I had to wonder what the hell happened. 

(10-07-2024, 01:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Burrow threw an INT late in the 4th quarter that could have potentially been a 3-7 point difference.
Bengals were in FG range when the INT was thrown.
They could have either ended up getting a TD to ice the game or forced the Ravens to go the entire length of the field to score a TD vs just needing a FG to tie it up.

Had Burrow not thrown that INT, the Bengals may not have ended up in OT or Taylor may have felt more confident with Burrow throwing the ball in OT after the turnover.

(10-07-2024, 01:27 PM)TheCincinnatiKid Wrote: We would never have been going for a TD on that drive... short of a big play going all the way. Even if we start the drive more aggressively, the minute we get near the 20 we'd have been running it on every play.

(10-07-2024, 01:57 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I hear ya, but Burrow has thrown an INT once every 86 or so attempts this year so when he's dropping back at this psychological moment I know which way I expect the winds of fate to blow.

His plant leg could have blown up ala Teddy Bridgewater if we tried to pass, too.  Ok, that's not a really fair comparison but damn wasn't that nuts?



Well I mean, I'd agree that Burrow pretty much has to be prime Joe Montana perfect to get a W in a home division game, but that'd fit my narrative of ragging on the organization handcuffing him so I digress.

(10-07-2024, 02:01 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Meh that's what is funny.  The same ZT who insisted on playing a shell of Burrow to start last season looks at him going 30 for 39 with 5 TDs and nearly 400 yards and can't get over that 1 INT.  You have to admit that's quite the puzzle.

(10-07-2024, 01:58 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Isn't it commonly accepted as fact around here that Joe is given a couple of plays to choose from and picks one based on the defense? If we accept that as true, then I posit that EVERY play on offense is trusting Burrow and putting the ball in, not only his hands, but his mind as well. Maybe it's not true, or in the case of OT, Joe is only given one play to run, but considering we know that 1 play yesterday in OT was changed but Joe ...

(10-07-2024, 02:05 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Not to mention it was only his 2nd all season.

Tell me this though...if Bengals drop back to pass and Ravens cause a fumble, an INT, or a sack that pushes them further back, would there be an outrage that they should have done the logical thing and ran the ball?

(10-07-2024, 01:45 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: My whole issue with the run, run, and run again strategy was the wind.  I was in Paycor Stadium yesterday for the game and the wind was swirling. In fact, Evan McPherson missed quite a few practice field goals in pregame warm-ups. In my opinion, making a 50 yard field goal in a swirling wind was low probability anyway.  If the wind was calm, I would not have been concerned.

(10-07-2024, 01:49 PM)PhilHos Wrote: You do realize we only lost on that FG because of a bad snap/hold, right?

(10-07-2024, 12:52 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Why did we decide lets just kick a 50+ yard FG to try and win it?

We ran three offensive plays after we recovered the fumble at the Ravens 37 and got all the way down to the 35  

We ran all 3 plays from heavy sets. And not a single pass despite JB having an outstanding day!! On the 1st play the Ravens have 9 defenders in the box. Everyone of them crashes to the LOS at the snap. J. Chase has a very soft coverage.

A half second after the snap there's a wiidddddeeeeee open middle of the field. If Chase runs a quick slant and it was a play action fake to Brown it's probably a TD. At a minimum a good gain. Of course JB would have to throw quickly.

I just can't understand why you have Joe Burrow for crying out friggin loud! And the coaches say screw that, put the Lamborghini away, lets get out the Honda civic and just get a couple yards a try a long FG.

And this isn't the first time ZT and Co. have been guilty of this. ML 2.0

(10-07-2024, 02:15 PM)Whatever Wrote: Maybe.

Money Mac is 49 for 65 from 40+ yards in his career.  That's a little over 75%.  Which is why is was dumb to go ultra conservative for a 50+ yard FG attempt.

(10-07-2024, 02:05 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Not to mention it was only his 2nd all season.

Tell me this though...if Bengals drop back to pass and Ravens cause a fumble, an INT, or a sack that pushes them further back, would there be an outrage that they should have done the logical thing and ran the ball?

(10-07-2024, 02:36 PM)PhilHos Wrote: "A little over 75%" and then you make it sound like it's a bad thing. lol 

Evan was perfect on 50+ FGs until that kick this season and I'm betting had the hold been good, the kick would've been good.