(10-29-2024, 09:34 PM)Tomkat Wrote: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Bc3x9T54taBvci4m/

My State of the Cincinnati Bengals

Did you watch Joe Burrow’s postgame news conference Sunday? Did you read his face and listen to his word choice? I did. What I saw and heard was frustration and disappointment. But most alarming, I heard resignation.

This organization was gifted Burrow. They did nothing to earn/or qualify to draft him …..other than lose.

With a gift like Joe comes a responsibility to support him, not use him.

This organization is failing him.

Consider what he’s been surrounded by since Day 1.

A head coach that will never again be hired as an NFL head coach. Anywhere. Anytime.

A GM that will never again be hired as an NFL GM. Anywhere. Anytime.

An owner that no fan base/city would ever want. Anywhere. Anytime.  

In Sunday’s postgame, Joe mentioned the need for everyone to take responsibility for what’s going on.

Zac owns things. The problem is he keeps having to own things because he continues screwing things up. This team once desperately needed Zac’s culture creating ways. These days they desperately need a head coach.

And while Rome burns, the owner and GM are nowhere to be found. They never talk publicly during the season. Why? Well, it’s just not how they do things.

The GM and his band of six scouts continue to offer the coach more draft misses than hits. They’ve run out of the Top 5 draft currency for the easy picks like Burrow and JaMarr Chase.

Good players eventually get big contracts. That requires an owner's willingness to keep spending in order to keep winning. See Jessie Bates. See DJ Reader. See Tee Higgins.

It’s too late to save this season. No team that’s 0-4 at home, 3-5 overall, winners vs the Browns, Panthers and Giants, but losers to anyone good, is suddenly going to win 7 of its next 9.

Tick, tick, tick. Hear that? That’s the clock ticking on Joe’s time in Cincinnati and his career. It’s also the timer running out on fan patience and goodwill.

I see it. You see it. I think Joe is seeing it.

The organization knows it. But they got their franchise QB. They’ve left the rest up to him.

Admit it, you can’t help feeling queasy wondering if the Burrow contract, and stuff like the Ring of Honor and Ruler of the Jungle is just the equivalent of the Votto contract, bobbleheads and statues for the Reds. Shiny objects meant to pacify and distract. And that’s it.

Burrow’s having the best season of his career. He’s the top rated QB in the NFL.

The Bengals are now closer to a rebuild than the Super Bowl.

Buckle up. It’s going to get worse….and I can’t complete the thought with ‘before it gets better’  

Higgins won’t be here next year. Heck, what if Ja’Marr Chase doesn’t want to be here next year?

Shame on this organization.

(10-30-2024, 03:42 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Every single team on that list except the three in bold would trade their QB’s for Joe Burrow in a heartbeat. And in Baltimore’s case John Harbaugh has already won a Super Bowl. Probably would have more than one by now if his MVP QB didn’t turn into Andy Dalton every January.

The Bills have underachieved in the playoffs, and I’m sure deep down many of their fans have to wonder if McDermott is really the guy to win it all for them. Especially after 13 seconds.

At the end of the day Zac Taylor sucked into landing both Burrow and Chase, and then proceeded to ride the two of them, an opportunistic defense, and a kicker who went 19/19 in the playoffs to a Super Bowl. Cool. It was super fun. But that was 3 seasons ago now which in NFL years is an eternity. The fact is he’s a sub 500 coach who never has his team ready to start the season, and is about to miss the playoffs for a 2nd straight year (despite having a 4th place schedule). Probably looking at another last place finish too now that Cleveland isn’t hampered with Watson anymore.

(10-29-2024, 09:34 PM)Tomkat Wrote: It’s too late to save this season. No team that’s 0-4 at home, 3-5 overall, winners vs the Browns, Panthers and Giants, but losers to anyone good, is suddenly going to win 7 of its next 9.

Tick, tick, tick. Hear that? That’s the clock ticking on Joe’s time in Cincinnati and his career. It’s also the timer running out on fan patience and goodwill.

I see it. You see it. I think Joe is seeing it.

(10-29-2024, 09:34 PM)Tomkat Wrote: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Bc3x9T54taBvci4m/

My State of the Cincinnati Bengals

Did you watch Joe Burrow’s postgame news conference Sunday? Did you read his face and listen to his word choice? I did. What I saw and heard was frustration and disappointment. But most alarming, I heard resignation.

(10-30-2024, 03:42 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Every single team on that list except the three in bold would trade their QB’s for Joe Burrow in a heartbeat. And in Baltimore’s case John Harbaugh has already won a Super Bowl. Probably would have more than one by now if his MVP QB didn’t turn into Andy Dalton every January.

(10-29-2024, 09:44 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: Corey Dillon.........Carson Palmer.....Joe Burrow. The cycle continues.

(10-29-2024, 09:42 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: They are giving Zac grace because of the AFC championship games and Super Bowl appearance. Eventually that has to be exhausted.

(10-29-2024, 10:11 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Yep. Rex Ryan took the Jets to back-to-back AFC Championship games. Guess what? Nobody cares, or remembers him as a particularly good HC.

It’s a what have you done for me lately type of league, and Taylor is about to miss the playoffs for two consecutive years. That’s enough to get most coaches fired. Especially when they already have a franchise QB in place.

(10-30-2024, 10:32 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Really, when did Burrow leave?

(10-30-2024, 10:32 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Because Taylor is totally more likely to follow the Belichick trajectory than the countless other HC’s who were <500 through 6 seasons. Gimme a break.

It’s like people bringing up Brady being a 6th rounder. They’re called OUTLIERS.

(10-30-2024, 10:36 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Depends.  I'm not getting 2010 vibes from this year, but it does feel a little like 2009. 

(10-30-2024, 10:39 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Burrow's not going anywhere, neither is Chase. MacAllister is a drama queen trying to generate clicks

(10-30-2024, 10:31 AM)PhilHos Wrote: So I'm going to guess you think the Ravens should get rid of Lamar Jackson?

(10-30-2024, 10:39 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Burrow's not going anywhere, neither is Chase. MacAllister is a drama queen trying to generate clicks

(10-30-2024, 10:46 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: That’s a weird correlation to make. Playoff struggles aside, Lamar is infinitely better at his job than Zac Taylor is at his. And a top 5 QB is a hell of a lot harder to upgrade from than almost any HC.

(10-30-2024, 10:36 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Seriously you are going to go there? Two whole years when we finished last season with Browning and almost made it and this year isn't written yet? 

(10-30-2024, 10:50 AM)PhilHos Wrote:  
Oh, and getting a good HC is really easy. Just look at the Bengals throughout the 90s.

(10-30-2024, 12:20 PM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: In all fairness we have been hitting more OBJ hasn't been a problem at LT. Mims is looking like a stud on the right side. Tre might be best FA signing in entire NFL over last 10 years based off contract and production. My problem is more with Zac and our owners unwillingness to change

(10-29-2024, 09:44 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: Corey Dillon.........Carson Palmer.....Joe Burrow. The cycle continues.