(11-09-2024, 02:03 PM)Tlawsonmariat82 Wrote: Tee showed up to camp on day one given everything he had with no contract in sight doing everything he could to help us this season and as soon as gets hurt you got unappreciative fans bitching left and right insinuating that he's dogging it..

I get it he's had some bad luck on the injury front in his career but Tee Higgins has been a world class member of this Bengals team and people need to put some respect on this kids name it's treatment of some of you fans that's reason this franchise is so damn unlucky as it is now..

(11-09-2024, 12:27 PM)samhain Wrote: There's no way to argue that this season hasn't sucked.  

Even so, there's one thing that I think has been made pretty clear:  This offense does not need Tee Higgins to thrive.  Burrow has gone off for 2 straight weeks without him.  He's proven that he most certainly is what we thought he was, ie a truly elite QB1 that can make an offense out of lesser parts when he has to.  Chase had 250 plus and 3 tds vs the Ravens without Tee on the field to divert attention.  Tee has been available for a total of 4 games. The offense, with the exception of the NE game, has largely looked fine..

Could they have used him vs Philly?  No doubt.  Is he a necessity?  IDK anymore.

I think his departure is a disguised blessing.  It will force them to utilize the TE more effectively (which they have), and also put more emphasis on the run game (ugh.)

To summarize: Burrow and Chase are enough without Tee.  This offense isn't going to turn into a pumpkin while he misses half the games for another team while making 27 mil per or so in 2025.

(11-09-2024, 04:09 PM)Whacked Wrote: I think JB ……playing the way he is …..can win w/o Tee and we need spend money on the D. He has not always been this SICK though.

Regardless, I’m all in to rebuild the D.

I’d love to beef up the OL too but Joe is playing so dang well that even several of these incompetent scrubs on OL aren’t holding him back. He is playing lights out.

Spend every penny left on the D …..after breaking the bank on Chase.

(11-09-2024, 04:13 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: nah they have to upgrade one of the interior spots at the very least. He's taking too many hits, and the run game overall is still poor. Gotta upgrade the G spot

Asked Zac Taylor about Joe Burrow taking 13 QB hits against BAL: “It’s a really talented defense. When you throw the ball that many times it is going to happen. He does a great job buying time until the end to give his (receivers) a chance. So, often, probably some of those hits…

— Charlie Clifford (@char_cliff) November 8, 2024

(11-09-2024, 04:21 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Won’t happen. They’ll just keep their heads in the sand, and our HC will say stupid shit like this.

Asked Zac Taylor about Joe Burrow taking 13 QB hits against BAL: “It’s a really talented defense. When you throw the ball that many times it is going to happen. He does a great job buying time until the end to give his (receivers) a chance. So, often, probably some of those hits…

— Charlie Clifford (@char_cliff) November 8, 2024

(11-09-2024, 04:21 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Won’t happen. They’ll just keep their heads in the sand, and our HC will say stupid shit like this.

Asked Zac Taylor about Joe Burrow taking 13 QB hits against BAL: “It’s a really talented defense. When you throw the ball that many times it is going to happen. He does a great job buying time until the end to give his (receivers) a chance. So, often, probably some of those hits…

— Charlie Clifford (@char_cliff) November 8, 2024

(11-09-2024, 04:46 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: just coach speak. I think they upgrade one of the spots for next year. Will it be a big upgrade? probably not unfortunately

(11-09-2024, 02:03 PM)Tlawsonmariat82 Wrote: Tee showed up to camp on day one given everything he had with no contract in sight doing everything he could to help us this season and as soon as gets hurt you got unappreciative fans bitching left and right insinuating that he's dogging it..

I get it he's had some bad luck on the injury front in his career but Tee Higgins has been a world class member of this Bengals team and people need to put some respect on this kids name it's treatment of some of you fans that's reason this franchise is so damn unlucky as it is now..

(11-09-2024, 07:57 PM)Sled21 Wrote: No one said or even insinuated he was dogging it. He is definitely NOT dogging it because he needs to have a great year to get his next contract where he wants it. What I said is he is not going to get healthier as he ages, and he has trouble staying on the field with his hamstrings. Doesn't matter how good a player or how good a guy he is, he does not help this team from the bench.

(11-09-2024, 04:47 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'm hoping for James Daniels

(11-09-2024, 04:09 PM)Whacked Wrote: I think JB ……playing the way he is …..can win w/o Tee and we need spend money on the D. He has not always been this SICK though.

Regardless, I’m all in to rebuild the D.

I’d love to beef up the OL too but Joe is playing so dang well that even several of these incompetent scrubs on OL aren’t holding him back. He is playing lights out.

Spend every penny left on the D …..after breaking the bank on Chase.

(11-09-2024, 08:43 PM)samhain Wrote: When this team was peaking, the defense was bailing the offense out more than people's memories might suggest.  They made key plays at critical points in games.  They seemed to do it routinely.  It almost became expected.  Lou's witchcraft with halftime adjustments was second to none at the time.  

We don't need a shutdown defense.  I'm not even sure that's a thing in the modern NFL.  We just need a defense that can hold a decent offense to 21 or less.  

(11-09-2024, 08:47 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: having the best run stuffing defensive tackle, and one of the best ball hawk safeties certainly helped the 21 and 22 teams. One dominant guy in the front, one dominant guy in the back. And yes, Bates was dominant in the postseason.

replacing Reader and Bates with Rankins and Stone is the biggest reason why this defense just isnt working

(11-09-2024, 09:47 PM)samhain Wrote: Both are rare players.  I said for 2 years that finding a guy to man centerfield in single high was going to be a tough ask.  Bates was as good as it gets at it.  

Same with Reader.  There aren't a lot of good NTs in the league.  You can count them on one hand, and that's generous.  It's hard to evaluate them coming in from college.  Not a premium position, but also a really difficult one to develop.  FWIW, I'm not overly down on Jackson.  He might be okay.  He's better than I expected at this point honestly.  Def no Reader though, and expecting him to be is unreasonable.

(11-10-2024, 01:51 AM)J24 Wrote: The last Baltimore game was an outlier. The prior data shows that the offense is substantially better with Tee in it.

Outside of @Baltimore game Chase is averaging 48 yards and only has 1 Td in the 4 games without Tee. With Tee he is averaging 104 yards per game and has 5 Tds.

Also the Bengals are 1-3 in those games and averaging 23.25 points vs 28.6 points with Tee.

(11-09-2024, 04:21 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Won’t happen. They’ll just keep their heads in the sand, and our HC will say stupid shit like this.

Asked Zac Taylor about Joe Burrow taking 13 QB hits against BAL: “It’s a really talented defense. When you throw the ball that many times it is going to happen. He does a great job buying time until the end to give his (receivers) a chance. So, often, probably some of those hits…

— Charlie Clifford (@char_cliff) November 8, 2024

(11-10-2024, 03:45 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I seriously don't understand all the crying over spilt milk here with Bates. It was understanded by most that he was not going to be
paid by the Bengals. We drafted Dax Hill and yes, it was a bad move because he wasn't the same player, but it is what it is. DJ on the
other hand should of been brought back and McKinnley Jackson to me could be just as good as Reader from what I am seeing.