(11-22-2024, 11:09 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: you can blame injuries when the brunt of them were on the offensive and defensive line and forced rookies to start....we agree to dissagree

(11-21-2024, 04:30 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Has any team talked more shit and not backed it up as much as we have?



The Jets come to mind, but it's a close call. 

(11-22-2024, 11:09 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: We've only scored 31+ five times this season and we're 2-3 then.

(11-21-2024, 06:30 PM)Millhouse Wrote: I'm trying this find this stat, but I swore I heard during the Ravens game I think that the record for all the NFL teams that scored 31+ points this season was like 60 (something) to 3?  And the only 3 losses were by the Bengals at that time (2-3 record 31+ pts scored)

Basically no one rarely loses if they score more than 31,  except the Bengals, who are now 2-5 on the season when scoring over 31.

(11-22-2024, 10:30 AM)TJ528 Wrote:
Eric01 you can't blame injuries man.  Every team has injuries.  The Bengals lost games they "should've" won.  In the 90's we would've called it they "Bungaled" that win away.  Most of this season watching games, all I can think to myself is "how are they gonna bungal this game away".  I hate thinking that way but man the ineptness of the defense and McPherson is just crazy.  

I think the Bengals had a good draft this season. I think they truly have some good picks in Mims, McKinney, Jenkins I think are going to big contributors over the next 4 years.  All was having a great season, but after the 2nd ACL surgery on the same knee, lets see if he can come back.  Newton could be a nice nickle corner for us, and Matt Lee will eventually be the center.  This year was a great draft.   I think it's a great draft even if you dont get anything from Burton.  Until he gets his head straight that kid just isn't going to play. 

Next year Tee will be gone,  I think you need to cut Rankins, Hubbard and go find 2 players that can get after the QB and stuff the run.  Both have had horrid years.  Address the IOL.   Again, I dont think they're far away.  Just some tweaks. 

(11-21-2024, 05:53 PM)TJ528 Wrote:
I hate to say it but you could almost feel a dysfunction in this team in training camp.  

When all the talk about contracts came down with Tee and Trey.  

Then they start losing and players start talking shit. 

I want this team to succeed but I almost feel like there's so much inside noise it wasn't going to happen this year.  

Next year, figure out Trey and Uno's contracts. Sign them.  Fix the defense and IOL.

This team isn't that far away.  Although, they've talked like they're Super Bowl contenders. 

(11-22-2024, 02:31 PM)Sled21 Wrote: That's true, but when you have multiple injuries hitting the same position group, that's hard to recover from. We lost Sample for the year, Sheldon Rankins for a batch of games, BJ Hill for a batch of games, Hubbard is evidently playing injured and stinking up the place, Jackson started the year injured as well as Jenkins. That's a lot of D line to be playing without.

(11-22-2024, 02:31 PM)Sled21 Wrote: That's true, but when you have multiple injuries hitting the same position group, that's hard to recover from. We lost Sample for the year, Sheldon Rankins for a batch of games, BJ Hill for a batch of games, Hubbard is evidently playing injured and stinking up the place, Jackson started the year injured as well as Jenkins. That's a lot of D line to be playing without.

(11-22-2024, 02:38 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Agree, imagine the stealers starting out the season with Heyward, Ogunjobi, Benton and Twatt hurt and see if that doesn't affect them.

That was how bad we were decimated with Rankins, BJ Hill, Hubbard and our rookies hurt and our talent is not near as high.

(11-22-2024, 03:17 PM)TJ528 Wrote: Honestly, it feels like we've played without Rankins for the year because he's been pretty "rank" all year.  Dude just hasnt lived up to his price tag.  

(11-22-2024, 03:20 PM)TJ528 Wrote: However Nate to be fair, Rankins is no where near Heyward, and Hubbard has to have been one of the worst DL in the NFL this year period.  Doesn't help when CBT has stunk up the joint at CB either.   

The other side of the coin is the Steelers also have a good enough front office that have quality 2nd string DL to at least get them through the tough time.  Evidently the Bengals do not.   Even with the DL back, teams are walking through our defense like it's butter.  So again, you can blame injuries but I think this goes deeper than injuries.  

(11-22-2024, 02:38 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Agree, imagine the stealers starting out the season with Heyward, Ogunjobi, Benton and Twatt hurt and see if that doesn't affect them.

(11-22-2024, 06:14 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Imagine comparing the loss of BJ Hill and Myles Murphy to missing TJ Watt and Cameron Heyward.

That's not even the beginning of an equal comparison, Nate. That's like if a Steelers fan complained about starting the season with Russell Wilson out and said to you "imagine if Joe Burrow was out". They're not the same level of player, so it's not the same level of loss.

Hell, they're all back and we still have the 28th scoring defense. 

(11-22-2024, 06:14 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Imagine comparing the loss of BJ Hill and Myles Murphy to missing TJ Watt and Cameron Heyward.

That's not even the beginning of an equal comparison, Nate. That's like if a Steelers fan complained about starting the season with Russell Wilson out and said to you "imagine if Joe Burrow was out". They're not the same level of player, so it's not the same level of loss.

Hell, they're all back and we still have the 28th scoring defense.