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RE: Ranking all players on the roster prior to 2025 off season - Synric - 01-20-2025
(3 hours ago)TecmoBengals Wrote: Speaking of Hilton, it's going to be hard to replace his talent. He's aging and eventually we'll lose his ability to stop the run and pressure the QB.
If healthy Daxton Hill will likely step in a slot corner which is probably thr position he should have been playing since he was drafted. He has the talent to be special there too. He looked awesome in the box early in 2023 before they decided he need to play the post because Nick Scott was terrible.
RE: Ranking all players on the roster prior to 2025 off season - CJD - 01-20-2025
(4 hours ago)Synric Wrote: Mike Hilton is also the best run defending corner in the NFL slot or boundary. He should be above Mims and Ted Karras as well.
If Hilton is the 7th best player on this team, then we better bend over backwards to resign him.
Do you think we will?
RE: Ranking all players on the roster prior to 2025 off season - TecmoBengals - 01-20-2025
(3 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: I think he has one more contract in him....
I hope so. He's an awesome talent and appears to be a vocal leader for the team.
RE: Ranking all players on the roster prior to 2025 off season - Synric - 01-20-2025
(3 hours ago)CJD Wrote: If Hilton is the 7th best player on this team, then we better bend over backwards to resign him.
Do you think we will?
No. The rate corners fall off at 30 years old is staggering.
RE: Ranking all players on the roster prior to 2025 off season - Whatever - 01-20-2025
(4 hours ago)CJD Wrote: And Hilton had to be taken off the field on third down because he can't cover. He is an excellent run defender and blitzer, but he's also over 30 and may lose his job in 2025. Yoshi is a reliable red zone target that has produced a lot of touchdowns in his time on this team. I don't think the choice is as obvious as you're making it seem. Both players have really good aspects of their game and really glaring flaws.
Yoshi is literally the worst graded qualifying player at his position per PFF. Like, there are qualifying G's that grade worse than Cappa and Volson. In fact, Volson grades better outright.
Beyond that, he has the third worst Catch % on the team, only better than Irwin and Burton to go with 5 drops on 61 targets. He doesn't block well and is a non factor between the 20's.
He is an extremely hard sell when you're claiming he's just outside the ten best players on the roster. And if he is, why bother resigning Tee?
Hilton, beyond his individual contribution, is one of the defensive leaders of the club and is a big part of helping the young CB's.
RE: Ranking all players on the roster prior to 2025 off season - Nicomo Cosca - 01-20-2025
(59 minutes ago)Whatever Wrote: Yoshi is literally the worst graded qualifying player at his position per PFF. Like, there are qualifying G's that grade worse than Cappa and Volson. In fact, Volson grades better outright.
Beyond that, he has the third worst Catch % on the team, only better than Irwin and Burton to go with 5 drops on 61 targets. He doesn't block well and is a non factor between the 20's.
He is an extremely hard sell when you're claiming he's just outside the ten best players on the roster. And if he is, why bother resigning Tee?
Hilton, beyond his individual contribution, is one of the defensive leaders of the club and is a big part of helping the young CB's.
I agree he has Yoshi too high but it’s pretty simple; Yoshi is a keeper, and Volson is not. Idc what the grades say.
RE: Ranking all players on the roster prior to 2025 off season - Whatever - 01-20-2025
(55 minutes ago)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I agree he has Yoshi too high but it’s pretty simple; Yoshi is a keeper, and Volson is not. Idc what the grades say.
Volson sucks and should be warming the pine, no question. That said, this is an issue with perception. If Volson fails at his assignment, it's apparent, because Joe gets decked. If Yoshi fails at his assignment, it rarely is apparent because the ball doesn't come his way. When Yoshi finally does succeed and catches a pass, people then wonder why he isn't getting the ball more.
It's this difference in perception that causes the "Golden Binns" hype every year.