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RE: BJ Hill is back - jj22 - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 02:06 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Compared to where it was 2 hours ago, yes.
Hill + Jenkins + Jackson > Jenkins + Jackson.
I agree. We needed a Vet. Did we need to spend 16m on (an over the) Hill?
This screams exactly what Tobin said he learned the issue was (holding on to those SB vets).
Also with 12m to MG and 16m to Hill we are dangerously close to what Tobin stated he didn't want. The same roster as 2024 (not including the draft) just more expensive.
RE: BJ Hill is back - Joelist - 03-10-2025
Right now the big issue with the DT room is inexperience. Jenkins and Jackson both missed time last year and both were rookies. Hill is after signing the only experienced player. The other issue is our room is currently all 3Ts. We lack a NT. Our 2 rookies both flashed good play so both are keepers for now but we need to add a big, powerful NT.
RE: BJ Hill is back - WeezyBengal - 03-10-2025
I don't love BJ Hill but this is a REALLY good value for him. Like really, really good.
RE: BJ Hill is back - Luvnit2 - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 02:09 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I don't love BJ Hill but this is a REALLY good value for him. Like really, really good.
I originally thought we overpaid, but looking around at craziness, I was wrong.
We have the vet with 2 rookies now on the roster so no longer an urgent need.
RE: BJ Hill is back - Gohards - 03-10-2025
This is probably our biggest FA resign outside of the big 3 in trey, tee and jamarr.
Mike g, then this.
Great value as well.
I feel either Tee or Trey will sign a contract with us by the end of the wek.
RE: BJ Hill is back - THE PISTONS - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 01:54 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: We say that every year when the staggering numbers start rolling out. Remember the run on high dollar RBs last year?
It's a ramification of the cap increasing.
It's like inflation in the world. Everything costs more.
RE: BJ Hill is back - WeezyBengal - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 02:13 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I originally thought we overpaid, but looking around at craziness, I was wrong.
We have the vet with 2 rookies now on the roster so no longer an urgent need.
It's still a VERY weak room.
RE: BJ Hill is back - SunsetBengal - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 02:19 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's a ramification of the cap increasing.
It's like inflation in the world. Everything costs more.
It's still strange that some of the same people who have been on here for years keep imagining players values at last year's prices, year after year.
RE: BJ Hill is back - WeezyBengal - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 02:19 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's a ramification of the cap increasing.
It's like inflation in the world. Everything costs more.
BJ Hill is making about the same money he did 2 years ago.
IMO he was overpaid 2 years ago. Now he's almost underpaid.
RE: BJ Hill is back - Essex Johnson - 03-10-2025
Very needed signing, has been solid for us last two years...
RE: BJ Hill is back - cinci4life - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 01:35 PM)pally Wrote: 3 yr $33million per Ian Rapoport
16 million guaranteed.
RE: BJ Hill is back - ochocincos - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 02:31 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: It's still a VERY weak room.
Luckily, DT (especially the 1st and 2nd round) probably the strongest position in this draft class to add another (or two).
RE: BJ Hill is back - WeezyBengal - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 02:37 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Luckily, DT (especially the 1st and 2nd round) probably the strongest position in this draft class to add another (or two).
Counting on a lot of rookies/unproven players at the moment to make up 1/2 (maybe more if Trey is moved) of the defensive line.
Just not ideal.
RE: BJ Hill is back - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 01:35 PM)pally Wrote: 3 yr $33million per Ian Rapoport
Good signing, BJ is a very solid DT tweener type. He keeps our DT room from being terrible and if Jenkins and McKinnley can develop and we
add a stud next to BJ we will be much better than last season.
RE: BJ Hill is back - XenoMorph - 03-10-2025
Well we got 1 starter for the DL....
RE: BJ Hill is back - ochocincos - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 02:41 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Counting on a lot of rookies/unproven players at the moment to make up 1/2 (maybe more if Trey is moved) of the defensive line.
Just not ideal.
How do players become proven without giving them a chance to prove themselves?
In fact, the Chiefs implored this strategy a few ago when they rolled out the 2022 draft class.
Trent McDuffie, George Karlaftis, Leo Chenal, and Isaiah Pacheco really jumped in to fill critical gaps for that team.
I'm not the biggest fan of the DL they got, but they invested early draft picks and those guys need some more playing time if we want to get anything out of their rookie deals.
I personally think any of the DL in Rd 1 this year would upgrade over Jenkins, Jackson, and Murphy.
And depending on how the remaining cap ends up, any FA they bring in for DT may not really be much better than Jenkins and Jackson.
RE: BJ Hill is back - SunsetBengal - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 02:32 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: BJ Hill is making about the same money he did 2 years ago.
IMO he was overpaid 2 years ago. Now he's almost underpaid.
Some players are content to accept less money than they can get on the open market because they are happy with the team they are on; they like where they live and don't want to relocate their families. I, for one, and happy that he's still here. He's undervalued by many fans, but not I. You never have to worry about a guy like BJ not giving 100% of his effort. He sets a good example for the young DTs to follow.
RE: BJ Hill is back - CJD - 03-10-2025
The appeal to bring back any part of that 2024 defense is fairly low for me, but Hill is decent.
RE: BJ Hill is back - pulses - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 01:52 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: and Ted Karras was apart of the worst interior o-line unit in the league
But Karras wasn't part of the problem.
RE: BJ Hill is back - Synric - 03-10-2025
The Bengals desperately need starters across the DL and BJ Hill brings a consistent level of average... but this does not move the needle.