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RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - ochocincos - 04-02-2025
(04-02-2025, 02:45 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Yeah, F the OL! Burrow for CPoY #3 in 2026! If he dies, he dies!
"Hey, Burrow and the passing offense ended up Top 3 in the NFL with the OL they got. We don't need to improve it! Run it back!" - Bengals FO, probably
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - TheLeonardLeap - 04-02-2025
(04-02-2025, 04:27 PM)ochocincos Wrote: "Hey, Burrow and the offense ended up Top 3 in the NFL with the OL they got. We don't need to improve it! Run it back!" - Bengals FO, probably
6th scoring, 9th overall offense last year.
....Just a reminder that Joe Burrow has never had a better ranked scoring offense than Andy Dalton's best which was also 6th. That's criminal.
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - PCB Bengal Fan - 04-02-2025
(04-02-2025, 04:56 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: 6th scoring, 9th overall offense last year.
....Just a reminder that Joe Burrow has never had a better ranked scoring offense than Andy Dalton's best which was also 6th. That's criminal.
Could you imagine Mr. Happy Feet (1st read King) behind the lines that Burrow has had?
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - ochocincos - 04-02-2025
(04-02-2025, 04:56 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: 6th scoring, 9th overall offense last year.
....Just a reminder that Joe Burrow has never had a better ranked scoring offense than Andy Dalton's best which was also 6th. That's criminal.
Sorry, I was meaning passing offense.
1st in yards, 1st in TDs.
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - SunsetBengal - 04-02-2025
(04-02-2025, 06:47 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Sorry, I was meaning passing offense.
1st in yards, 1st in TDs.
Just imagine how much more effective and lethal the passing game could be if they actually focused on establishing the run and being able to convert critical short yardage on the ground?
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - ERIC1 - 04-02-2025
(04-02-2025, 02:35 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: They're paper thin at RB, as well. This team is just a couple of injuries away from total devastation.
not really they have done a pretty good job in shoring up rotations..If Burrow goes down...then its a different story
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - SunsetBengal - 04-02-2025
(04-02-2025, 07:12 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: not really they have done a pretty good job in shoring up rotations..If Burrow goes down...then its a different story
Huh?? If either of the two big money WRs go down with significant injury, the game plan is drastically altered. If Chase Brown gets seriously injured, the game plan seriously suffers. (I like Samaje Perine, but he's not a featured back to carry the load in the NFL)
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - BengalsBong - 04-02-2025
We can get our 3rd RB from the UDFA pool.
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - THE PISTONS - 04-02-2025
It's always interesting to me when we bring in new position coaches. We'll have a guy that's mediocre for several years, and we'll get all optimistic the player will be fixed.
Maybe. But, likely not.
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - TheLeonardLeap - 04-02-2025
(04-02-2025, 09:44 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's always interesting to me when we bring in new position coaches. We'll have a guy that's mediocre for several years, and we'll get all optimistic the player will be fixed.
Maybe. But, likely not.
Made even less likely with the Bengals lacking scouting department because the coach who got fired is probably the one who scouted/chose the mediocre guy.
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - Nicomo Cosca - 04-02-2025
The Titans had one of the worst OL’s in the league last season despite having Bill Callahan. Even the best coaches can only do so much with what they’re given. Expecting someone like Peters to make decent starters out of guys like Volson and Ford is pure folly.
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - Luvnit2 - 04-02-2025
(04-02-2025, 09:22 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: We can get our 3rd RB from the UDFA pool.
It is a great year for running backs. I think we can geta future starter in round 6, but not an UDFA in my opinion. We havea chance to ugrade the RB room significantly,I hope we do it.
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - Joelist - 04-02-2025
I'd expect a starting OG on Day 3 at the latest coupled with a veteran signing at or after the draft - they said they likely were done until the draft not for good. Which BTW is in 3 weeks.
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - bfine32 - 04-03-2025
(04-02-2025, 11:40 PM)Joelist Wrote: I'd expect a starting OG on Day 3 at the latest coupled with a veteran signing at or after the draft - they said they likely were done until the draft not for good. Which BTW is in 3 weeks.
Well there isn't a day 4, so you're most likely safe w/ going Day 3 as the latest
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - ochocincos - 04-03-2025
(04-02-2025, 06:56 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Just imagine how much more effective and lethal the passing game could be if they actually focused on establishing the run and being able to convert critical short yardage on the ground?
'HOW CAN YOU BE BETTER THAN 1ST?!" - FO, probably
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - ochocincos - 04-03-2025
(04-02-2025, 09:22 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: We can get our 3rd RB from the UDFA pool.
Rd 5 or 6 feels appropriate too if wanting to use a draft pick.
Many are saying this is a stacked RB class, so given that also RB is devalued, I expect some good ones still available that late.
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - Housh - 04-03-2025
(04-02-2025, 03:01 PM)phil413 Wrote: I respect you for being a realist on how management probably thinks as opposed to us shouting that anything short of Scherff and a top 2 round rookie is a failure. One solid guard will indeed go a long way, but you never plan for weak guard play. At least they'll have a path to something better than Volson with Ford or Patrick competing even if it's a slight upgrade.
The probability of landing a guard high looks better with college tackle prospects looking better at guard and a trade down for an 3rd. There are a lot of DL prospects and they can use help anywhere there not only at pass rushing edge. I could see them landing best DL in a trade down ( just too many there) and worst case a guard in the 3rd if they go true bpa for say a safety in the 2nd. I still don't like banking on a rookie to be ready, so they'll need to check in on Scherff and any solid post draft release. They can also trade a late round pick for someone that a team replaced in the draft. They just can't assume that Patrick, a rookie and your 3rd tackle that looked meh fixing the guard play.
For the record i agree
A starter and a high round rookie was my wishlist for guard
If we do that AND with signing that one guy we got we’re good at guard
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - ERIC1 - 04-03-2025
(04-02-2025, 07:15 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Huh?? If either of the two big money WRs go down with significant injury, the game plan is drastically altered. If Chase Brown gets seriously injured, the game plan seriously suffers. (I like Samaje Perine, but he's not a featured back to carry the load in the NFL)
sunset..we still have the draft..and at the end of training camp..good players will be released and available...
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - ochocincos - 04-03-2025
(04-03-2025, 12:18 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Well there isn't a day 4, so you're most likely safe w/ going Day 3 as the latest
They could just get a UDFA or roll with the 4 they got right now in Volson, Ford, Patrick, and Kirkland.
RE: You only have to fix 1 guard spot to fix the oline - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 04-06-2025
Worst in the NFL overcthe last 3 years on 4th and 1.
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/cincinnati_bengals_last_in_key_fourth_down_metric_over_past_few_seasons/s1_16652_42008587
Half as good as the best team (Rams). We are at 42%. Rams 92%. KC 89%. Den 87%. PHI 86%. One of two teams under 50%.
Again, this offense, and it's olaycalling, are FAR from elite