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RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - THE PISTONS - 04-03-2025

(04-03-2025, 12:50 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Here's the full text of the article

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6248228/2025/04/01/bengals-evp-katie-blackburn-stadium-deal/
There's no way they don't exercise the 2 year option. It's all a negotiation.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - SunsetBengal - 04-03-2025

(04-03-2025, 06:24 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: There's no way they don't exercise the 2 year option. It's all a negotiation.

That's what I took from her words, as well.

Quote:“We’ve all been working really hard on looking at a lease extension and renovations that might be part of that,” she said. “And so there are a lot of great ideas out there. It’s just finding a way to bring it all together, make sure everyone’s on the same page, and pulling it together. We seem to have a lot of work to do to make that actually happen.”

I mean, it's just honest and to the point of the questions that she was asked. Not sure how some are contorting her words as "threatening to move" or any such thing.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - QueenCity - 04-03-2025

The board is taking it in stride per this article - https://www.wlwt.com/article/hamilton-county-commissioner-paycor-negotiations-bengals/64380396?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&fbclid=IwY2xjawJb5cVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHSOAtqXlkKHCXx7usDOwWgcFAp8Wb2HyX9UjzrK4vF5XL66jd7Wi-Gj96Q_aem_4yDViymYXoTfL5VbpY_eUw

Summerow Dumas thinks Blackburn's comments were designed to move the negotiating process along more quickly.

"I think it's really strategically to try to move us a little faster, but I'm very confident in the speed that we're taking," Summerow Dumas said. "We're doing what we need to do to be good partners with the Bengals."


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - BFritz21 - 04-03-2025

(04-03-2025, 07:07 PM)QueenCity Wrote: The board is taking it in stride per this article - https://www.wlwt.com/article/hamilton-county-commissioner-paycor-negotiations-bengals/64380396?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&fbclid=IwY2xjawJb5cVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHSOAtqXlkKHCXx7usDOwWgcFAp8Wb2HyX9UjzrK4vF5XL66jd7Wi-Gj96Q_aem_4yDViymYXoTfL5VbpY_eUw

Summerow Dumas thinks Blackburn's comments were designed to move the negotiating process along more quickly.

"I think it's really strategically to try to move us a little faster, but I'm very confident in the speed that we're taking," Summerow Dumas said. "We're doing what we need to do to be good partners with the Bengals."

I used to think that there's no way any city would accept the Bengals because of Mike Brown and the way he operated things, but now, with Burrow, Chase, and Higgins, it does worry me a little that maybe Katie could move the team.

I hope the city sees how much money they'd lose by letting the team move and does what it takes to keep the team here, so let's just hope that Katie's smart, loyal, and reasonable.

I'd literally be destroyed if the team left.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Frank Booth - 04-03-2025

(04-03-2025, 07:38 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I used to think that there's no way any city would accept the Bengals because of Mike Brown and the way he operated things, but now, with Burrow, Chase, and Higgins, it does worry me a little that maybe Katie could move the team.

I hope the city sees how much money they'd lose by letting the team move and does what it takes to keep the team here, so let's just hope that Katie's smart, loyal, and reasonable.

I'd literally be destroyed if the team left.

those guys would be retired when and if the bengals leave cincinnati


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - THE PISTONS - 04-03-2025

(04-03-2025, 07:38 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I used to think that there's no way any city would accept the Bengals because of Mike Brown and the way he operated things, but now, with Burrow, Chase, and Higgins, it does worry me a little that maybe Katie could move the team.

I hope the city sees how much money they'd lose by letting the team move and does what it takes to keep the team here, so let's just hope that Katie's smart, loyal, and reasonable.

I'd literally be destroyed if the team left.

IF they decided to move tomorrow, there's a lot of steps they'd need to go through. Approvals. Studies. Negotiations with a new city, etc. It's 5 to 7 years at fastest and the league might shut them down.

They don't strike me as the type that would want to relocate too.

This is all about trying to get the state and county to kick in as much as possible.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - bfine32 - 04-03-2025

This organization should sign who we want, at whatever price it takes, serve what we want, stay where we want, and just allow us to continue to slur them.

I CANNOT STAND THEM!!!!


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - sandwedge - 04-03-2025

(04-03-2025, 01:11 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Wouldn't the ownership have to first offer someone else to purchase the Bengals before it could be moved out of Ohio due to the Art Modell Law when he took the Browns out of CLE? Or would that not apply when the county taxes stop? I would think it would apply indefinitely if the County helped fund PBS and they would have to build a whole new facility that is not taxpayer-funded to get out of this law?

https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-9.67

EDIT - Honestly, I also really dislike how cold KB operates. Hardlines everything. Doesn't seem to have a compassionate bone in her body.
Huh? Don't tell us her bluntness hurt your feelings


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - sandwedge - 04-03-2025

(04-03-2025, 03:11 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Bengals are stuck.

They have done zero due dilligence with even remotely thinking about moving the team. No city, plot, plan whatsoever. Plus the 500-600 million dollar relocation fee. There is just no chance. 

The city has them by the balls.

Maybe because they don't plan on moving the team?


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - BFritz21 - 04-04-2025

(04-03-2025, 08:12 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: those guys would be retired when and if the bengals leave cincinnati

(04-03-2025, 10:40 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: IF they decided to move tomorrow, there's a lot of steps they'd need to go through. Approvals. Studies. Negotiations with a new city, etc. It's 5 to 7 years at fastest and the league might shut them down.

They don't strike me as the type that would want to relocate too.

This is all about trying to get the state and county to kick in as much as possible.

That does make me feel a little bit better because at least we'd have at least two Super Bowls by then.

It just flipped me out because, when Mike was running things, I knew there's no chance because no city would put up with an organization the run the way he did, but now that we're a respectable contender that runs like we have half a brain, it seems like other cities would love to have us.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - ochocincos - 04-04-2025

(04-03-2025, 11:54 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Huh? Don't tell us her bluntness hurt your feelings

It doesn't "hurt my feelings." What she says or does doesn't affect me, personally.
She just doesn't seem to care about anything.
She operates like a robot.
Leaders are expected to show some empathy toward others.
I don't see empathy in the way she communicates.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Sled21 - 04-04-2025

(04-03-2025, 01:20 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote:
It appears Bengals could not renew the lease and then give 6 months notice
. The Bengals offering someone the opportunity to buy the team still gives the team control. They set the price so they could ask an outageous price, the same price they could get from another city to move.

No, but they can not renew the lease and move.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Sled21 - 04-04-2025

(04-03-2025, 03:11 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Bengals are stuck.

They have done zero due dilligence with even remotely thinking about moving the team. No city, plot, plan whatsoever. Plus the 500-600 million dollar relocation fee. There is just no chance. 

The city has them by the balls.

You all are kidding yourselves. There are football starved cities that would get into an absolute bidding war to have the Bengals move three. They'd build a stadium and pay the relocation fee for them just to have them. I would think this would make many of you who always say you wish they would move so you could quit supporting them very happy.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Sled21 - 04-04-2025

(04-03-2025, 03:31 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I'm progressively hating Katie more with every time she talks to the media.

Lets say you leave, and you take the risk that nobody is going to buy the Bengals from you (which I don't believe you'd do while Mike is still alive). Where are you going that's going to give you a big piece of land and a taxpayer funded stadium? Not only is that time largely over with a lot of cities voters rejecting deals, but also give it to YOU, the Brown/Blackburn family specifically. Everyone knows how you operate.

You don't have the money to build a Patriots Place or Jerry World complex anywhere so you'd largely be in the exact same situation elsewhere soon enough. Hell, you won't even extend your sack king DE and one of only three great players on your team, how are you going to pay the hundreds of millions of dollars relocation fee?

Stop being putzes, you became billionaires thanks to tax dollars and turned around and made Bengals tickets the 7th most expensive in the NFL. F that. Now use your own valuation to pay for your own continued wealth increase. No more tax dollars to sports teams.

Again, there are cities who would love to build a stadium for them. 


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Sled21 - 04-04-2025

(04-03-2025, 08:12 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: those guys would be retired when and if the bengals leave cincinnati

Why would you say that? They moved the Browns to Baltimore in the middle of the night. Takes two-year max to build a stadium somewhere and could probably get it done in a year if they pressed. 


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Sled21 - 04-04-2025

(04-03-2025, 10:40 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote:
IF they decided to move tomorrow, there's a lot of steps they'd need to go through. Approvals. Studies. Negotiations with a new city, etc. It's 5 to 7 years at fastest and the league might shut them down.


They don't strike me as the type that would want to relocate too.

This is all about trying to get the state and county to kick in as much as possible.

With motivated people, that crap can be done in a month.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Sled21 - 04-04-2025

(Yesterday, 09:08 AM)ochocincos Wrote: It doesn't "hurt my feelings." What she says or does doesn't affect me, personally.
She just doesn't seem to care about anything.
She operates like a robot.
Leaders are expected to show some empathy toward others.
I don't see empathy in the way she communicates.

She would be a horrible leader if she showed empathy towards the city in negotiations. That's when sharks smell blood in the water.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Whatever - 04-04-2025

(Yesterday, 09:39 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Why would you say that? They moved the Browns to Baltimore in the middle of the night. Takes two-year max to build a stadium somewhere and could probably get it done in a year if they pressed. 

Beyond that, there's plenty of stadiums that can temporarily host games if things go south.  

Folks should also realize that a number of teams have/do play in stadiums outside of the city that bears the team's naming rights.  The 49'ers play in Santa Clara, which is 45 miles from San Fran.  The Giants and Jets played in New Jersey for years.  Just because the Bengals aren't doing a full blown relocation doesn't mean they have to continue to partner up with Hamilton County.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - ochocincos - 04-04-2025

(Yesterday, 09:42 AM)Sled21 Wrote: She would be a horrible leader if she showed empathy towards the city in negotiations. That's when sharks smell blood in the water.


My comment wasn't in reference to this topic specifically, but in every communication she ever seems to do.

She didn't need to add in the comment that they could go wherever they wanted. While technically true, it feels like a slap in the face to a city that financially supported the organization for over 50 years.
And then you add on the comments KB seems to make about the situation with Hendrickson where she mentions she feels he needs to be happy with how much he's making. She just has the same communication style that doesn't seem to factor in the emotional response from the players/city/fans.

I bring it up because at my company, I am one of those in leadership, and our culture is one promoting emotional intelligence and empathy toward our users, stakeholders, and staff. If any of us were to talk publicly like KB does, we would likely be reprimanded by upper leadership.

I get though that some people don't care HOW someone communicates, and even admires how some can be incredibly direct and "**** people's reactions" to what is said.
That's just not the communication style I care for, same with many others.


RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - ERIC1 - 04-04-2025

(04-03-2025, 03:51 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: I look back and laugh when fans were praising katie blackburn saying she would save the bengals lol

I think it would be best to reserve judgement..compared to other NFL cities..this public back and forth in Cincinnati  is negligible..I found the team demands to be very responsible and reasonable and I think the deal will get done soon