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RE: All in? - Truck_1_0_1_ - 06-20-2025

(Yesterday, 06:30 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: I actually like All in there with Sample, as it allows the O to run or pass.

Similar to keeping All in there with Gesicki, allowing the O to audible to pass or run, pending what the D is showing.

Despite tripping over his own feet immediately after toughing the ball, Sample is a great TE3.

He catches a lot of crap because the Bengals pulled the trigger way early in drafting him.

Eh-hem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a9Kbxazjyc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAtMhjk_bf0

You call that tripping!?!?!!? 


RE: All in? - FormerlyBengalRugby - 06-20-2025

(Yesterday, 06:40 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Eh-hem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a9Kbxazjyc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAtMhjk_bf0

You call that tripping!?!?!!? 

I am a fan and supporter, both those were clear anomalies to the norm.

Glad he gotten though!


RE: All in? - Truck_1_0_1_ - 06-20-2025

(Yesterday, 06:33 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: FTR, i don't actually dislike Sample. He seems to be a good guy and a super hard worker. Good asset to the team. 

(Yesterday, 07:01 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: I am a fan and supporter, both those were clear anomalies to the norm.

Glad he gotten though!

I've been a fan since he was drafted. Yes, I like many was not over the moon that he was drafted that high, but always been one of my favourites on the team.

If not for Fairchild this year, Sample was the jersey I was going to get next (and still may, if something happens to Fairchild).


RE: All in? - Nicomo Cosca - 06-20-2025

(Yesterday, 06:10 PM)jj22 Wrote: I'm not sure about him vs Sample in blocking but I remember he had a top DE locked up one on one for one of Burrow's TD's last season that was fairly impressive. I wish I could remember what game that was.

His biggest asset as a total package TE is he didn't give away the play. Him being in didn't dictate it was a pass play or a run play. They had flexibility when calling a play with him in.

Our TE's now you kinda know what they are going to do.  

It was against KC.


Not exactly a top DE, but a really impressive block nonetheless.


RE: All in? - TKUHL - 06-20-2025

(Yesterday, 04:48 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: I think he was supposed to be a very good TE who could block and catch. He was also hyped coming out of Iowa (Tight End U) but right now you can’t even compare him to Eifert. At least Eifert had a couple of non-injury seasons where he was very good.
Unfortunately, All’s career has not even had a chance to get on track. Hope is able to come back and have a good career.

Interesting that I just looked up Eifert and he’s only 35 years old. Seems like he played decades ago. Crazy to think that without all of the injuries he might still be in the league.

I think he would have been one of the best TE’s EVER! I thought he was that good, but the injuries were too much. Maybe I over hyped him. I also use to think Odell Thurman would have been a HOF player if he had his head on straight. Same with Chris Henry. Dude was Randy Moss like at times. Damn what could have been. All the way back to Greg Cook. RIP.


RE: All in? - WildCat - 06-20-2025

(Yesterday, 08:43 PM)TKUHL Wrote: I think he would have been one of the best TE’s EVER! I thought he was that good, but the injuries were too much. Maybe I over hyped him. I also use to think Odell Thurman would have been a HOF player if he had his head on straight. Same with Chris Henry. Dude was Randy Moss like at times. Damn what could have been. All the way back to Greg Cook. RIP.

if they had played for another franchise their history's might have been very different. being a bengals fan is almost as sad as being a browns fan. almost.........


RE: All in? - NUGDUKWE - 06-20-2025

I saw where they discovered an issue with his previous ACL surgery during the surgery to repair the one this season. I believe it was going to require a future surgery and that was the reason for not being able to play in 2025. Feels like it will be tough to right his career after the injuries and extended time away from football. Sucks he was looking like a steal and really helping to open up the offense.


RE: All in? - WildCat - 06-20-2025

(Yesterday, 08:51 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I saw where they discovered an issue with his previous ACL surgery during the surgery to repair the one this season. I believe it was going to require a future surgery and that was the reason for not being able to play in 2025. Feels like it will be tough to right his career after the injuries and extended time away from football. Sucks he was looking like a steal and really helping to open up the offense.

Par for the course. go figure.


RE: All in? - Bengalitis - 06-20-2025

(Yesterday, 01:41 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AllxEr00.htm

In 9 games:  20 receptions on 22 targets for 158 total yards, 17.6 yards per game.  I don't know much about other aspects of his game like blocking.  I might be wrong but it seems like I remember others saying he was fairly good at it.  I think mostly the hype is based on his perceived potential. 

That's pretty good.. interesting.


RE: All in? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-21-2025

(Yesterday, 05:33 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The worst part is, knowing All's injury history, every time he went out for a pass last year i held my breath.  Mellow

Hard not to.

(Yesterday, 06:15 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Someone is feeling persnickety! 

Overall, Sample is the better blocker, hence my statement.

As I and other have noted, All was an asset due to not tipping the offense's hand.

True enough. Erick All is just an all around TE. He can do it all when healthy, hope to see him again in 2026 and hopefully his injuries are
behind him. He has had some hard luck during his career so far that is for sure. And he has a name where you can use it in different ways. Mellow

(Yesterday, 06:30 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: I actually like All in there with Sample, as it allows the O to run or pass.

Similar to keeping All in there with Gesicki, allowing the O to audible to pass or run, pending what the D is showing.

Despite tripping over his own feet immediately after toughing the ball, Sample is a great TE3.

He catches a lot of crap because the Bengals pulled the trigger way early in drafting him.

True, Drew just gets crap for when he was drafted, wasn't his fault.

(Yesterday, 06:30 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: All is the better blocker in space and moving (pulling), but Sample is much stronger, better anchor and can actually block DEs fairly consistently.

All is the more complete player, as his route running is better, more athletic and can block well, but can't catch as well as Gesicki and can't block as well as Sample.

It was the perfect, "one blocker, one pass catcher, one hybrid," that we had last year.

But after the botched first surgery (because it shouldn't have torn again if done properly), this will indeed be tricky for him to come back.

Spot on, I liked what we had going at TE last year and I think it was the best year for Burrow ever throwing to TE's which is a great sign.

Gesicki just needs to up his TD's this year now that he is paid and has a multi year contract. I still like using Drew Sample as the H-back too.