(07-25-2025, 11:28 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: we lost three games by a total of 5 points to KC and Baltimore (2 of the top 3 teams in AFC} , their main changes was revamp coaching staff feeling that they have a good enough roster to compete and were happy i think with their group of 2nd year players and expect more impact from them especially on defense. 

(Yesterday, 09:59 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Cam or Drew, because if you're talking about Drew you lost credibility right there. When you have an iffy O-line, you don't cut your best TE blocker. 

(Yesterday, 01:50 PM)jason Wrote: I'm not going to look it up but I bet most every team lost x amount of games by x amount of marginal points. That's not an indication of being really close to being really good. It just means you're not winning games. The drubbing that Philly laid on the Bengals last year is an outlier. Most games are decided by a few points.

(Yesterday, 11:54 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: So far: Starters out:

O: Cappa (cut)
D: Hubbard (retired), Rankins (cut), Pratt (cut), Hilton (FA, not retained).

Replacements:
O: Ford/Patrick
D: Ossai/Stewart, Slaton (Hill to 3T), Knight/Burks, Turner/Fig/Hill.


Volson is still on the team, but Fairchild is the starter. LS & CB could also see new starters. As coukd TE if Fant signs. 

(Yesterday, 01:37 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: NP

Let's look at week 4 and see what the defense ranks in 2025 versus what they ranked in 2024. I say we are better, you say same or worse so let's see who correct.

As for 2nd years players getting better, if not we have huge issues. It is very realistic to expect young players to progress. We saw it offense with Yoshi and even Chase getting better.

(Yesterday, 01:58 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: Let’s say you’re right, and the defense is better. How better? Are they good enough, obviously along with our offense, to get us to a Super Bowl?


This is me entire point I make over and over on numerous threads. We have not done enough to become a superbowl team, and thus it’s a wasted season if that turns out to be the case.

(Yesterday, 02:06 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: well  lets think about last year, if the defense was a bit better, we would have sweep Ravens and beaten Chiefs, so 2 of the top 3 teams in AFC , so yes we would have been considered a SB contender.. 

(Yesterday, 01:56 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: Yikes. We’re hoping our miraculous turn around is on the backs of Ossai, 2”3 rookies, a rotational one dimensional DT, and the exact same CB we had last year and weren’t good when they were healthy.


Say that out loud and tell me this is a top 3 team in the league.

(Yesterday, 01:56 AM)Ell Prez Wrote: Do you want specific names and specific details? Cut: Volson, Stone, Moss, Sample.

I would have signed a corner ( Carlton Davis, Byron Murphy, Ward, Fulton, slay).

Sign a safety, sign a DE or DT. Sign 2 guards.

(Yesterday, 01:53 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: Correct. And we could also turn this the other way and say the games they won, they didn’t beat anyone that good, except the broncos. The broncos aren’t even that good.

I feel like people forget the goal is a superbowl while we have the best QB and best WR in the league at their prime. The window is small, the years are long.

If we didn’t do enough this offseason, it’s another wasted year. And then what next offseason? Same as last and the year before.

(Yesterday, 01:58 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: Let’s say you’re right, and the defense is better. How better? Are they good enough, obviously along with our offense, to get us to a Super Bowl?


This is me entire point I make over and over on numerous threads. We have not done enough to become a superbowl team, and thus it’s a wasted season if that turns out to be the case.

(Yesterday, 01:56 AM)Ell Prez Wrote: Do you want specific names and specific details? Cut: Volson, Stone, Moss, Sample.

I would have signed a corner ( Carlton Davis, Byron Murphy, Ward, Fulton, slay).

Sign a safety, sign a DE or DT. Sign 2 guards.

(Yesterday, 02:16 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: At this juncture no we aren’t a top 3 team. Defense wasn’t upgraded enough but could be better. But I asked but you didn’t respond. What players either in the draft or in FA should we have pursued while mindful of dealing with Chase,Tee, and Trey contractually? Where did we drop the ball? You say we didn’t do enough. Spit it out.

(Yesterday, 04:59 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Okay Davis was signed for 18 million a year
Byron Murphy (DT)of the Seahawks? How were we getting him?
Jimmie Ward (S) he’s 34 and signed for 10.5 million and is likely sidelined for a felony
Kristian Fulton signed with KC for 10 million
Darius Slay is 34 10 million contract.

You didn’t say who at guard? 2? How much are we spending there?
What’s the price tag on your hunt?

Obviously they were restricted signing Trey. They drafted a DE. So a safety, corner, and guard?

So say Fulton 10 Ward 10 ( you’d be hunted on hear with his arrest) and 2 guards let’s say 15 million. And the guys you cut about 13 million in cap hits. That’s the fuzziest math I’ve ever seen

I can agree on a safety. But they drafted Fairchild and Stewart. Maybe a guard but the good guards were expensive.

(Yesterday, 01:58 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: Let’s say you’re right, and the defense is better. How better? Are they good enough, obviously along with our offense, to get us to a Super Bowl?


This is me entire point I make over and over on numerous threads. We have not done enough to become a superbowl team, and thus it’s a wasted season if that turns out to be the case.

(Yesterday, 08:03 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: In your mind they have niot done enough because they did not sign the playersand coaches that you wanted

In fact..they have made significant changes..significant

(Yesterday, 07:56 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: Bengals could have signed multiple free agents. They could do longer deals to spread the cap, void years, cut more players.

They didn’t do enough to win a superbowl, and that means it’s a wasted year. I’ll still watch every single game and hope to be proven wrong.