(01-10-2016, 02:29 AM)Beaker Wrote:  His hit on brown was no worse than Shazier's hit on Gio.

(01-10-2016, 04:29 AM)Aquapod770 Wrote: Yup. It's down right stupid how many people are acting like Burfict's hit was the worst hit in the history of the league. Hits like that happen every week. Burfict will be fined and/or suspended. And so should Shazier.

(01-10-2016, 02:55 AM)Beaker Wrote: Those same Bengals are the ravens daddies. Going on 3 years now since the last time the ravens beat the Bengals.

(01-10-2016, 09:17 AM)Bmoreblitz Wrote: And how many playoff wins has that gotten them? Lol

(01-10-2016, 11:38 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: None, but all you have is the past and a bleak short term future. Get ready on 2016 for Bengals owning your fellas again.

(01-10-2016, 12:00 PM)Bmoreblitz Wrote: Hey it's still more than what your boys will give you. 

Get ready for 2016-17 and beyond of choking and losing and being embarrassed in the playoffs. 

(01-10-2016, 12:05 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I remember Ray Lewis hitting Chad years ago costing the Ravens a win. I guess it happens, it just doesn't happen to the Steelers when they do the same or worse. My boys gave me 12 weeks of happness in 2015. Your gave you 5, I predict your future will be similar in 2016.

(01-10-2016, 12:08 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Ryan Clark used to get flagged for helmet-to-helmet hits when he literally tackled them in their lower back or ass. That happened 2 or 3 times.

(01-10-2016, 12:11 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Or like Williams getting flagged last night for hitting a guy with his shoulder below the head. The issue is simple, these close calls have to be consistent. If you are going to flag one that is close like the Williams hit, then flag the Gio hit and the Eifert hit. Or flag none of them.

(01-10-2016, 12:17 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Wheaton was contacted in the helmet - partially because he ducked into, but that is irrelevant to the rule.

Eifert wasn't and Gio wasn't a receiver.

(01-10-2016, 01:01 PM)Bmoreblitz Wrote: Damn I've never seen so much f**** whining.

(01-10-2016, 12:08 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Ryan Clark used to get flagged for helmet-to-helmet hits when he literally tackled them in their lower back or ass. That happened 2 or 3 times.

(01-10-2016, 04:31 AM)6andcounting Wrote: We all know the true worst hit in NFL history was mitchell on Eifert.

(01-10-2016, 12:17 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Wheaton was contacted in the helmet - partially because he ducked into, but that is irrelevant to the rule.

Eifert wasn't and Gio wasn't a receiver.

(01-10-2016, 01:37 PM)Aquapod770 Wrote: Leading with the crown outside the tackle box is an automatic PF. Reciever or not. 

(01-10-2016, 12:19 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Wheaton was not contacted to the helmet at all, the helmet is clearly below it. Eifert was a hit to the head, but it does not matter as a defender can't launch. But, I have said my piece. I am out of the forum for a while to get back my sanity.

Quote:ARTICLE 7. PLAYERS IN A DEFENSELESS POSTURE

It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture.

1. Players in a defenseless posture are:
   
   
   
   1. A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass (passing posture)
   2. A receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner. If the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player
   3. The intended receiver of a pass in the action during and immediately following an interception or potential interception. If the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player.
      
      
      Note: Violations of this provision will be enforced after the interception, and the intercepting team will maintain possession.
   4. A runner already in the grasp of a tackler and whose forward progress has been stopped
   5. A kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air
   6. A player on the ground
   7. A kicker/punter during the kick or during the return (Also see Article 6(h) for additional restrictions against a kicker/punter)
   8. A quarterback at any time after a change of possession (Also see Article 9(f) for additional restrictions against a quarterback after a change of possession)
   9. A player who receives a “blindside” block when the path of the offensive blocker is toward or parallel to his own end line, and he approaches the opponent from behind or from the side
   10. A player who is protected from an illegal crackback block (see Article 2)
   11. The offensive player who attempts a snap during a Field Goal attempt or a Try Kick
       
2. Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:
   
   
   1. forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him
   2. lowering the head and making forcible contact with the crown or ”hairline” parts of the helmet against any part of the defenseless player’s body
   3. illegally launching into a defenseless opponent. It is an illegal launch if a player (i) leaves both feet prior to contact to spring forward and upward into his opponent, and (ii) uses any part of his helmet to initiate forcible contact against any part of his opponent’s body. (This does not apply to contact against a runner, unless the runner is still considered to be a defenseless player, as defined in Article 7.)
      

(01-10-2016, 01:39 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2015-nfl-rulebook/

Was Eifert defenseless woudl be the issue.

Simply "launching" is no longer a foul in the NFL.

(01-10-2016, 12:05 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I remember Ray Lewis hitting Chad years ago costing the Ravens a win. I guess it happens, it just doesn't happen to the Steelers when they do the same or worse. My boys gave me 12 weeks of happness in 2015. Your gave you 5, I predict your future will be similar in 2016.

(01-10-2016, 01:42 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Launching and leading with the crown of your helmet, outside the tackle box are two different things, guy of limited metal acuity.

Quote:ARTICLE 8. INITIATING CONTACT WITH THE CROWN OF THE HELMET

It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team’s end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or tackler against an opponent shall not be a foul.
Note: The tackle box no longer exists once the ball leaves the tackle box.