(08-27-2016, 07:29 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Funny how many people in this thread are supporting SD, as if they're not crazy cheap and trying to do something that no 3rd overall pick has had done contractually since the rookie wage scale.

The Chargers are a $1.525b  franchise and they're fighting a college kid over like $500k-$1m. Don't draft 3rd overall if you don't want to give a contract that 3rd overall picks get. Don't draft a guy 3rd overall if you want to leave yourself an out on his rookie contract.

This is not the first time the Chargers have had this problem (Eli Manning refusing to play for them). This is also the same franchise which fired a coach after going 14-2. The owner's child is the president of the team, another one of his children is the executive vice president. Nepotism to the max. When there's smoke...

(08-27-2016, 07:29 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Funny how many people in this thread are supporting SD, as if they're not crazy cheap and trying to do something that no 3rd overall pick has had done contractually since the rookie wage scale.

The Chargers are a $1.525b  franchise and they're fighting a college kid over like $500k-$1m. Don't draft 3rd overall if you don't want to give a contract that 3rd overall picks get. Don't draft a guy 3rd overall if you want to leave yourself an out on his rookie contract.

This is not the first time the Chargers have had this problem (Eli Manning refusing to play for them). This is also the same franchise which fired a coach after going 14-2. The owner's child is the president of the team, another one of his children is the executive vice president. Nepotism to the max. When there's smoke...

(08-27-2016, 11:01 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: On the flip side, the kid is sitting out for what a few percent now of his money that he will actually all get since it is guaranteed .  I look at it this way, it is like paying a contractor 95 percent of the job before they even start the job and before you even see how well they do the job... and putting the 5% in escrow that is guaranteed and given after the 1st part of the job is complete.  How many contractors would walk away from that job 

Bosa looks pretty silly to me

(08-27-2016, 07:19 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Never was so much written by so few with so little punctuation...or logic.

-Winston Churchill 

(08-27-2016, 11:01 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: On the flip side, the kid is sitting out for what a few percent now of his money that he will actually all get since it is guaranteed .  I look at it this way, it is like paying a contractor 95 percent of the job before they even start the job and before you even see how well they do the job... and putting the 5% in escrow that is guaranteed and given after the 1st part of the job is complete.  How many contractors would walk away from that job 

Bosa looks pretty silly to me

(08-28-2016, 12:29 AM)Shady Wrote: What he's doing in SD would throw up huge red flags for Mike and Marvin. As much as anyone might like it to happen, I can't see it. If he's as good as people (including and especially himself) think he is, then I'd love to have him. But do you think Mike or marvin would seriously entertain the thought?

(08-28-2016, 02:22 AM)Jpoore Wrote: I seriously think they would. If the chargers just took out offset language off the contract, then the money when he got it wouldnt matter so its not about the money for him. its about the orginization trusting him and it should not even matter. What, theyre gonna cut the number 3 draft pick after 2 seasons? Not gonna happen so chargers are idiots and yes they would. pacman had about as maany red flags as you can have and look how well that turned out and those were character issues. This is contract issues, To me this seems to strengthen his character because hes willing to stick with what he believes is fair. And i guarantee that the bengals would take offset language out of our contract bc we dont cut our draft picks hell if hunt wasnt cut by now then he wont be cut so i do not think that they will be worrried whatsoever about bosa or the contract. You arent gonna pass on the next jj watt

(08-28-2016, 04:04 AM)Shady Wrote: If offset language is the sole issue, then I agree. It's not a character issue at all. TBH, I haven't followed Bosa's situation (or the rules governing rookie contracts) too closely (at all). Typically, I only give time to Bengals players. Guess I'm a homer that way. I'd love having JJ 2.0. 

(08-28-2016, 05:04 AM)Jpoore Wrote: Man can u imagine our defensive line with watt 2.0? Atkins billings and dunlap??

(08-28-2016, 08:06 AM)Beaker Wrote: bosa is over-rated...nowhere near jj watt in either ability or character

(08-28-2016, 03:00 AM)Killachubs Wrote: No thanks. Something is wrong with this kid if he's crying about waiting until March to get all of his bonus. Then trying to double dip. Character issues for sure, hiding an injury possibly

(08-28-2016, 09:36 AM)leonardfan40 Wrote: Like others have said it is too late for SD to trade Joey so it doesn't matter. I would be all for drafting him first next year if he falls to us, sitting out a year could cause that slide.

And anyone who sides with the Chargers on this dispute clearly doesn't understand what's going. They also must have missed the part where the Chargers went and made this public, which is so completely pathetic I can't believe anyone would still agree with them after doing that. It's disgusting, and Joey Bosa's mom was right. They should have demanded a trade when they had the chance. I promise you other players/agents are taking notes about how horribly the Chargers are fumbling this situation and will plan accordingly in the future.

(08-28-2016, 12:48 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: All of them if every single other contractor (3rd overall picks in this case) got better terms than them.

Why would that contractor want to work with a miser who's trying to squeeze them of money that no other employer has ever done before? Plus the employer has a bad history.

Meanwhile accepting that contract means you are incapable of taking work from any other employer for 4-7 years. (4 years + 5th year option + 2 franchise tags). By the time you're finally able to work for someone else, you'll be old, your skills in decline.



Bosa looks fine to me. Remember, if you're a first round draft pick, the team that takes you and you sign, you can be their property for SEVEN years. Maybe he simply doesn't want to play for the Chargers? It worked out pretty well for Eli. He won two SB, and the Chargers haven't won shit.

Meanwhile the Chargers are coming off a 4-12 season, are trying to get public finance for a new stadium, and just lost their 3rd overall pick because they wanted to squabble over $500k-$1m that every other team in the NFL has given a pick that high.

Dude will get drafted next year, ball out, and have a better chance of actually winning something with a different team and still be perfectly okay financially for the rest of his life.

(08-28-2016, 08:57 AM)Jpoore Wrote: On what planet is bosa overrated they had the same exact mesurables almost to a t at nfl combines, but lets look at watts college stats. in 26 games as a defensive end he had 1 int for 15 yards 74 solo tackles 32 assisted tackles for a total of 101 total tackles but lets not forget sacks; he had 11.5 sacks for 75 yards lost. Now bosa in 40 games he had 1 int for 28 yards he had 101 solo tackles 47 assisted tackles for a total of 148 total tackles. As far as sacks go, he had 26 sacks for 177 yards lost so actually coming out of college bosa is the better player than watt what he can do in the nfl remains to be seen but coming out of college bosa is the better player.