(11-27-2016, 11:47 PM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: Isn't Dalton's contract a year to year thing?

The Bengals couild move on from him with minimal financial penalty. Looking at Dalton's faces over the season, he COULD demand a trade.

(11-27-2016, 11:54 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: ANY player can demand a trade...that doesn't mean that the organization will trade them.

Dalton is classier than Palmer and wouldn't pull such a thing.

(11-27-2016, 06:26 PM)Tomkat Wrote: If that's what it takes to get rid of Marvin and perhaps turn things around, then I'm all for it.  Thoughts?

(11-27-2016, 11:54 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: ANY player can demand a trade...that doesn't mean that the organization will trade them.

Dalton is classier than Palmer and wouldn't pull such a thing.

(11-28-2016, 07:27 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: As time has passed, do we still feel like Carson demanding a trade was a bad thing? One, I think Dalton is a better QB than Carson. Carson was a pick 6 machine for a long time. I don't think he started out like that.

Secondly, if Dalton demanded a trade, I for one would be happy for him. Same with AJ Green. Go someplace where you can win.

It's not like they're pulling a Kevin Durant. This team has legitimately sucked for 25+ years. THey're pulling a Kevin Garnett/Kevin Love.

(11-28-2016, 08:15 AM)Pat5775 Wrote: I think a lot of Carson's troubles here started when the offensive line fell apart and we went more conservative on offense. I remember years ago (probably 2006) Marvin said in a press conference that the offense needed to work on "controlling the ball longer" and "take more time off the clock". Essentially, he believed the reason the defense was so horrible from 2005-2007 was because the offense scored too fast. Huge mistake IMO. Marvin seems to be under the impression it's the 1970's, that mostly every game will be low scoring and that ball control is the key to victory. BS. In this day and age, the goal should be to score on each and every possession. No lead is safe. I honestly think Marvin is happy to punt the ball away in certain situations where we burn some clock and the team has a lead, whether we lead by 3 or 24 points.

Anyway, Carson has never been good in a conservative offense. I don't get it, you'd think it would be easier for him but it's not. He struggled under the west coast type offense in his early years at USC and only put it all together his senior year when they ran an Air Coryell type offense. Carson thrives under complex, high-flying offensive schemes and flounders under basic, west coast offenses (see: his time in Oakland). When we dialed it down in Cincy Carson really began to struggle. Not a coincidence. When Carson wanted out I'm sure he believed most coaches would adapt their offenses to fit his strengths. Oakland obviously didn't, but then he found Bruce Arians. Unfortunately for him, Carson looks to be over the hill at this point. 

(11-27-2016, 06:26 PM)Tomkat Wrote: If that's what it takes to get rid of Marvin and perhaps turn things around, then I'm all for it.  Thoughts?

(11-28-2016, 09:46 AM)Wyche Wrote: I said the same thing about the line back then.  What's sad is we're seeing it happen again.  The main problem is the same as it was then.....pressure up the middle.  We still haven't replaced Richie Braham 10 years later.  However....yet again....it's the QBs fault.  Lather...rinse...repeat.

(11-27-2016, 09:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Hell, AJ might be hoping Dalton demands a trade.

(11-27-2016, 06:26 PM)Tomkat Wrote: If that's what it takes to get rid of Marvin and perhaps turn things around, then I'm all for it.  Thoughts?

(11-28-2016, 03:10 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Maybe the problem is the coaches allow him to hold his place AND Andy does. I wonder if Tom Brady would put up with this bullshit offensive line. Andy needs to get visibly mad. Then again it's all just a game and someone's feelings would get hurt (like Nugent, if you told him the truth, that he flat out suxors).

AJ said it once, Andy needs to get time to throw. The problem is those people protect Andy, you get mad at them...they'll just let people through. But how would that be any different than what's happening now? xD  :andy:

(11-28-2016, 08:22 PM)ANTHONY Wrote: I would be so happy if Dalton would demand a trade, AJ no. I feel bad for AJ having to play with a QB like Dalton always throwing high getting him hurt. Dalton would be total garbage without AJ...

(11-28-2016, 08:22 PM)ANTHONY Wrote: I would be so happy if Dalton would demand a trade, AJ no. I feel bad for AJ having to play with a QB like Dalton always throwing high getting him hurt. Dalton would be total garbage without AJ...

(11-28-2016, 07:44 PM)Beaker Wrote: Can we trade you?

(11-28-2016, 08:22 PM)ANTHONY Wrote: I would be so happy if Dalton would demand a trade, AJ no. I feel bad for AJ having to play with a QB like Dalton always throwing high getting him hurt. Dalton would be total garbage without AJ...