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RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-08-2025
(01-08-2025, 11:07 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: dude...if Pollack had that offensive line,,he would have been given a 5 year extension ..not get fired..not one Bengals player would be starting on Detroit's line and that includes Mims and Brown..our OL looks like an eighth grade highschool line compared to detroit..This was the first time I watched a Detroit game in its entirety..Ill take it even further..Detroits offensive line looks like a group of battleships plowing through some 40 ft long luxury yachts..Our line looks like a bunch of old arthritic senior citizens with multiple injuries
Eh don't call me dude.
Pollack got fired from the Cowboys when he inherited one of the best OL's in the NFL.Sure, the Lions OL is more talented than the Bengals OL, but coaching is what puts them over the top. Fraley has always been a top OL coach.
Mims is extremely talented, the Lions don't need him though as they have Sewell at RT. I wanted Ragnow back in the day.
These are 2 great, polished OL for Fraley to work with and the rest of the guys have been coached up along with them to be this badass line
you are watching. They don't all just get drafted and become this elite OL you are watching. This is crazy talk to act like the players just come
into the NFL and become great all on their own.
(01-08-2025, 11:16 AM)uticabengalfan Wrote: Is that from a talent level or from coaching?????????????? I agree Ragnow and Sewell are very good but how much is raw talent and how much is coaching? im for the belief a good coach finds what works best for his players and builds off that. Not a system guy who doesnt change or adapt
It is both talent and coaching. To think it is just talent is completely ignorant to football. Some of the most talented players flare out in
the NFL all the time. You have to be smart and be able to be coached up on top of talent.
(01-08-2025, 11:30 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: pollack cant do anything if the players don't have the skills, strength and athleticism..and our offensive line lacks all of the aforementioned..Take away Burrow..it would be even worse.I feel that they are going to make some definitive changes on the defense and offensive line..New voices were needed..it was the right call to let Pollack and Lou go
Our O-line has strength, but yeah, they are very lacking in athleticism besides Mims. Technique is also where our OL is very lacking.
This is on coaching.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - pally - 01-09-2025
Lou gets his first interview with the Colts for their open DC job
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - Truck_1_0_1_ - 01-09-2025
(01-08-2025, 12:47 PM)c766 Wrote: Well, most knowledgable and realistic fans would disagree with your opinions.
Also, why is William Jackson 'a loser human being'? You seem to have some anger issues.
I see, you don't want to debate, so you condescend and then belittle: you're one of those.
WJax has burnt all his bridges in the NFL with his mouth and attitude, that's pretty loserish behaviour.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - Joelist - 01-09-2025
Ordinarily I'd be more forgiving of Lou but this season where it took him 12 games to realize his players were not getting his system and adjusting the system turned me off - that is 100% a coaching failure.
On the OL we have three good starters right now (LT, RT, C), we lack Guards. Whoever the new OL coach will be needs to make sure the blocking scheme is compatible with the rest of the offense. If we get the right Guards we are in business.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - jj22 - 01-09-2025
(01-09-2025, 02:03 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I see, you don't want to debate, so you condescend and then belittle: you're one of those.
A bit rich coming from you.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - Truck_1_0_1_ - 01-09-2025
(01-09-2025, 02:34 PM)jj22 Wrote: A bit rich coming from you.
1. Please find where someone has laid out clear, concise thoughts and rebuttals and where I shut them down with no argument and just made fun of them.
Hint: you won't be able to. But since you are...
2. ... the king of moving goalposts and finding reasons X, Y, Z to, "prove," (in quotes because it doesn't prove anything) points A, B, and C, you'd probably spin something BS to try and prove your point like you always do.
The Troy Walters thread being exhibit A, currently.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - jj22 - 01-09-2025
(01-09-2025, 03:09 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: 1. Please find where someone has laid out clear, concise thoughts and rebuttals and where I shut them down with no argument and just made fun of them.
Hint: you won't be able to. But since you are...
2. ... the king of moving goalposts and finding reasons X, Y, Z to, "prove," (in quotes because it doesn't prove anything) points A, B, and C, you'd probably spin something BS to try and prove your point like you always do.
The Troy Walters thread being exhibit A, currently.
Truck your rep speaks for itself. Try not to condescend and belittle as you argue you aren't "one of them".
Embrace who you are. We all know your style.
Don't you have posts to "thumbs down"?
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-09-2025
(01-09-2025, 01:11 PM)pally Wrote: Lou gets his first interview with the Colts for their open DC job
Then let's get Eberflus please...
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - jj22 - 01-09-2025
(01-09-2025, 03:26 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Then let's get Eberflus please...
My last hope if Saleh isn't on the radar.
Eagles DB coach would be a good hire. He's just young.
Do they want a DC with experience or are they not looking for one with prior experience? I guess that is what I would like to know, but they won't let Duke clear anything up.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-09-2025
(01-09-2025, 03:28 PM)jj22 Wrote: My last hope if Saleh isn't on the radar.
Eagles DB coach would be a good hire. He's just young.
Do they want a DC with experience or are they not looking for one with prior experience? I guess that is what I would like to know, but they won't let Duke clear anything up.
Yeah, the Bengals just said neither Saleh or Dennis Allen will be interviewed which is stupid as hell. Sure I wanted Eberflus the most of any
one of these guys any ways I just don't like closing your minds to proven DC's. Is that Christian Parker the assistant on the Eagles? All I know
is the Secondary of the Eagles was damn good this year especially with having such youth on it, all be it very talented youth.
About the only Corners that shut down Ja'Marr this year were the Eagles.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - pally - 01-12-2025
Add Senior Defensive Assistant Mark Duffner to the unemployed list.
Bengals senior defense assistant Mark Duffner and defensive quality control coach Louie Cioffi also will not return to the team next season per source.
— Charlie Clifford (@char_cliff) January 12, 2025
That makes five departures from Cincinnati’s 2024 staff on the defensive side of ball.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - Joelist - 01-12-2025
They’re doing a purge on the defensive side of the ball so a new DC can install their own team - as they should.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - Sled21 - 01-12-2025
(01-09-2025, 03:26 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Then let's get Eberflus please...
Anybody know what kind of relationship, if any, Zac and Eberflus have? I would think Matt would jump at this opportunity. All he has to do is field an above average Defense and Burrow will take this team back to the Super Bowl, which is a fast track to him getting another HC job.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - Soonerpeace - 01-12-2025
(01-12-2025, 04:49 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Anybody know what kind of relationship, if any, Zac and Eberflus have? I would think Matt would jump at this opportunity. All he has to do is field an above average Defense and Burrow will take this team back to the Super Bowl, which is a fast track to him getting another HC job.
I would bet Matt wants to bring some of his discarded guys that he feels somewhat responsible to and Zac clearing the way.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - ERIC1 - 01-12-2025
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Eh don't call me dude.
Pollack got fired from the Cowboys when he inherited one of the best OL's in the NFL.Sure, the Lions OL is more talented than the Bengals OL, but coaching is what puts them over the top. Fraley has always been a top OL coach.
Mims is extremely talented, the Lions don't need him though as they have Sewell at RT. I wanted Ragnow back in the day.
These are 2 great, polished OL for Fraley to work with and the rest of the guys have been coached up along with them to be this badass line
you are watching. They don't all just get drafted and become this elite OL you are watching. This is crazy talk to act like the players just come
into the NFL and become great all on their own.
It is both talent and coaching. To think it is just talent is completely ignorant to football. Some of the most talented players flare out in
the NFL all the time. You have to be smart and be able to be coached up on top of talent.
Our O-line has strength, but yeah, they are very lacking in athleticism besides Mims. Technique is also where our OL is very lacking.
This is on coaching.
Sorry for calling you dude...aside from that..and even though coaching is important...when it comes to our iffensive line..they simply are not very good..and that includes our LT and Ill give Mims the benefit if the doubt at this point in his career..maybe he will be ok..lets hope so
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - reuben.ahmed - 01-12-2025
Hey, Dude
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - pally - 01-12-2025
(01-12-2025, 04:53 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I would bet Matt wants to bring some of his discarded guys that he feels somewhat responsible to and Zac clearing the way.
These personnel decisions have nothing to do with Matt Eberflus or any other DC candidate
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - Sled21 - 01-12-2025
(01-12-2025, 05:46 PM)pally Wrote: These personnel decisions have nothing to do with Matt Eberflus or any other DC candidate
Final decision no, but I would think if they hire a new DC they would listen to who he wants to bring as position coaches. If you remember, Zim thought he was taking Paulie to Minnesota with him to be his DC, until MB offered him Zim's job here.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - Stewy - 01-12-2025
(01-09-2025, 03:18 PM)jj22 Wrote: Truck your rep speaks for itself. Try not to condescend and belittle as you argue you aren't "one of them".
Embrace who you are. We all know your style.
Don't you have posts to "thumbs down"?
Yeah his rep speaks for itself and is orders of magnitude better than yours.
RE: Bengals fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack, James Bettcher and Marion Hobby - SunsetBengal - 01-12-2025
(01-12-2025, 04:49 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Anybody know what kind of relationship, if any, Zac and Eberflus have? I would think Matt would jump at this opportunity. All he has to do is field an above average Defense and Burrow will take this team back to the Super Bowl, which is a fast track to him getting another HC job.
Does is it really matter? I mean, can a HC observe another coaches style without having previously been connected to them, and know that they might be a great fit for what the team wants to do?