(06-20-2016, 01:04 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: And I don't think Jon wants or needs her.

I was actually pretty disappointed in the episode.  The Dany thing was cool.  The battle fell flat for me - and Jon taking the bait was pretty weak to have that character suddenly regress so far like that.  And that mountain of dead bodies - wtf?!?

Predictably, in like the most predictable thing ever, the Knights of the Vale come to the rescue at the last second just as everyone predicted.  Pretty much everything of note, save maybe Wun Wun, that happened we all saw coming for weeks.  Basically a forgettable transition episode (despite the lame attempts at dramatic action).  Very disappointing for the traditionally strongest episode of the year.

And how dare they let that ***** Ramsay kill Wun Wun.

(06-20-2016, 08:46 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: I agree. Pretty much every aspect, including Ramsey getting his, was somewhat predictable. Still, it's GoT so you gotta watch. And some of scenes were neat.

I think I called Dany frying the fleet with her dragons. I did enjoy the scene where they kill the two masters. Jon Snow proved once again that he "knows nothing". Sansa told him before the battle that Rickon was already dead and to watch out for tricks.

(06-20-2016, 01:21 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Three big northern houses are *****. The Boltons are done as a house. The Karstarks are done as a house. The Umbers are done as a house. I wonder if Jon eventually offer one of their holds to Tormund and his free people.

(06-20-2016, 10:23 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: yeah at that point  where jon was I don't know if it he could gone back with all the arrows.

(06-20-2016, 10:30 AM)CKwi88 Wrote: It was a satisfying episode. While parts of the battle were kinda stupid (Really Rickon? A straight frickin line?) or predictable (All of Ramsays tricks always work,) the cinematography of it was excellent. The scene of Jon realizing that he done screwed up and was facing down the cavalry was awesome.

I'm mostly just glad to see Ramsay gone. He started off as another good villain of Game of Thrones, but failed to become as complex of one as Tywin, Cersei, Sparrow or Baelish.

While I've been hard on Martin for taking his sweet time writing, the TV show seems to be forcing the show along a little too much. I'm sure the Gandalf.....er....knights of the Vale ex machina is done a little better in the books, as the last 3 episodes it was a mystery why Sansa kept her mouth shut.

(06-20-2016, 11:37 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: Yes. But should he have road out in the first place? It was clearly a trap.

(06-20-2016, 11:37 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: Yes. But should he have road out in the first place? It was clearly a trap.

(06-20-2016, 01:19 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: I would have preferred they didn't all but tell us the Knights of the Vale would come to the rescue.

The part with Yara and Theon also could have been with held as a surprise.  Another case where the foreshadowing wasn't really necessary and ruined the fun/surprise.

I just think that was really poor choices on the part of the writers.  They spoiled their own thunder.

(06-20-2016, 02:27 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: well the fans figured all that out littlefinger offered help and was refused and we didn't see sansa letter on the show.  and she never said a word about it.. 

so it was still a bit iffy if littlefinger would still show up... But as we have somewhat of his grand scheme in mind it made it fairly obvious he would not mind uniting the vale and the north (something he was trying to do in the books)   

But now the north is mostly united although completely devastated by war.. first robb took most of what was available then they fought off the ironborn... then the only ones with troups left the boltons who turned on the starks and the karstarks who left robb before the red wedding join forces and vastly outnumber the rest of the north.  (yes the umbers too but they sent most with robb)  

Surprisingly the mandrlys are absent in all of this. (the entire show for that matter)


But as far as the battle goes... Where was ghost (im not complaining as he would have died in that battle)  but where is the wolf that doesn't leave jons side.....

(06-20-2016, 05:28 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Ghost is a loner. You're not going to see him on the battlefield.

(06-20-2016, 01:05 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: You all just need to take a step back and try to enjoy the action and drama and stop...(this really isn't a shot or a slight because i do it too)...trying to be a better show runner/writer.

(06-20-2016, 02:27 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: well the fans figured all that out littlefinger offered help and was refused and we didn't see sansa letter on the show.  and she never said a word about it.. 

so it was still a bit iffy if littlefinger would still show up... But as we have somewhat of his grand scheme in mind it made it fairly obvious he would not mind uniting the vale and the north (something he was trying to do in the books)   

But now the north is mostly united although completely devastated by war.. first robb took most of what was available then they fought off the ironborn... then the only ones with troups left the boltons who turned on the starks and the karstarks who left robb before the red wedding join forces and vastly outnumber the rest of the north.  (yes the umbers too but they sent most with robb)  

Surprisingly the mandrlys are absent in all of this. (the entire show for that matter)


But as far as the battle goes... Where was ghost (im not complaining as he would have died in that battle)  but where is the wolf that doesn't leave jons side.....

(06-20-2016, 09:08 PM)Beaker Wrote: Hows this for the three dragon riders....Danerys, Yara Greyjoy and Sansa Stark.

(06-20-2016, 11:28 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: Just because I criticize some aspects of the story of one episode doesn't mean I don't enjoy the series. In fact, it is because I like the series that I sometimes criticize. Otherwise, I wouldn't care. 

Actually, playing screenwriter is akin to playing fantasy football. Fantasy screenwriter, if you will. And just like fantasy football, some like it and some don't. 

(06-20-2016, 11:29 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Or will Jon tell him about the Running Dead army up north, which could change all of Littlefingers scheming.  Either way, the North is definitely weak as the wildings are pretty much done for fighting wise, and all the houses are in shambles manpower wise after this battle and Robbs campaign. That leaves Littlefinger and his army as the real power in the North at the moment it seems.