(02-15-2017, 11:19 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: OK...explain how WR is the reason we can't run the ball...

Dude...we need starters at these spots:

A RT.
A C.
A Guard if Zeitler leaves which it looks like he will.
A LT if Whitworth leaves.
A WR2.
DE
DT
2 LB
Possibly CB if Kirkpatrick leaves.

We're more than a star WR2 away from competing.

(02-16-2017, 09:55 PM)Jpoore Wrote: Dt Billings with peko as backup. Not a need. DE it's a need that will be addressed in the first 3 rounds. 2 lbs? Seriously? We have vigil and burfict who would see the field 70 percent of the time. Not a big need. Just draft or sing a second tier middle line backer. We play 2 lb most of the time. Lt Whit isn't leaving we will resign him. RT fisher looked really good the more he played he will be above average to good next year. A Center we will draft this year finally hopefully elflien or orlosky. A guard we have westerman. We can't run the ball bc we don't have a good rb in hill. Simple.

(02-17-2017, 12:22 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Billings hasn't played a down in the NFL and is coming off of major knee surgery...and everyone is acting like he is a perennial All-Pro. He's barely even had time in training camp.

Vigil as a starter? He was the 2nd best LB on his college team. He may be a contributor...but it's far from a sure thing. And yes...we need atleast another starter assuming Vigil is one.

Westerman? Really? Going to rely on him?

You're essentially relying on a bunch of 4th Round picks and hoping they pan out. I guarantee you that all of them don't. If all of those guys start...we'll be a 5 win team.

(02-17-2017, 02:09 AM)Jpoore Wrote: man if 4th round picks and bad u must really hate Geno. Look the point is this. The goal of a dt is to push ur man backwards. Billings can do that with ease he has the strength of 2 olineman. He will clog the middle running lanes. Sure would I like to draft a Carlos Watkins or a Solomon Thomas to play dt? Yeah but it's not as big a need. Remember Billings was a first rounder in talent. Vigil was the best lb on his team imo. He looked REALLY good when I watched him as the season went on. You can play Vinny Rey as ur other starter he's not a full time starter but u only need him for 30 percent or less of snaps anyways. He doubled malaluga snaps by far anyways. So wouldn't be much of a change except Rey would get a few more snaps and burfict and vigil would be out there a lot. Westerman is the one I don't know about. He could easily be a great guard or he couldn't be. But the key to the whole oline is the center. Our line will never be good as long as bodine is running things.