(02-23-2017, 03:02 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Cody Kessler:
8 starts
128 of 195 (65.6%)
1380 yards (7.1 YPA)
6 TDs to 2 INTs
92.3 rating
3rd round pick
23 years old

AJ McCarron
4 starts
102 of 160 (63.8%)
1066 yards (6.7 YPA)
7 TDs to 3 INTs
89.7 rating
5th round pick
26 years old

Kessler posted better numbers with a worse cast, was drafted higher and is younger to boot. Now why should the Browns offer up a top pick for McCarron again?

(02-23-2017, 01:01 PM)jason Wrote: Yeah. For me, the saddest part of that game is that Burfict played lights out in an effort to win the game, but ultimately had a hand in the loss.

I have no problem with McCarron. I think hes a unique situation in that everyone knew him when he was drafted. The fan base was split on Dalton, so AJ became in instant favorite. I think it blinds people to the fact that he is a very pedestrian NFL QB. I'll believe that there is a market for him when/ if someone actually pulls the trigger. All I hear now is fan conjecture, and propaganda from Lapham's cheerleading ass.

(02-23-2017, 01:05 PM)J24 Wrote: He still lead an epic comeback and simply dismissing it is BS. Just because he is not as good as Andy doesn't mean he is not a good QB in his own right.

(02-23-2017, 03:11 PM)JumboTron Wrote: Yeah, but what does Kessler's wife look like?

(02-22-2017, 06:21 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: I'll have to look, but I'm pretty sure Lap said that someone offered the Bengals 2 picks for him.

(02-22-2017, 07:49 PM)Joelist Wrote: Which was debunked on this forum by Jim Owczarski:

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-A-J-McCarron-can-he-be-a-franchise-qb?pid=335655#pid335655

(02-22-2017, 07:59 PM)J24 Wrote:  Marvin probably did straight up lie to him; there is no way I could see Marvin commenting on a player move if they didn't pull the trigger. No offense to Jim but Dave probably has more inside sources in the organization and also has loose lips as well( he likes to talk not sure if he is a hoe or not).

(02-23-2017, 05:12 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: I've heard a theory about the AJ trade situation, and I think there's some truth to it. Lap said that someone called and offered a 2 and 4 for him.

Marvin said that there were no offers for him.

Knowing how Marv operates, if the Bengals aren't getting exactly what they want in a situation, they will deny it. Like the Palmer situation. I believe the team was looking for a 1st, and probably more, and no one offered that so Marvin says that there were no offers.

(02-23-2017, 05:12 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: I've heard a theory about the AJ trade situation, and I think there's some truth to it. Lap said that someone called and offered a 2 and 4 for him.

Marvin said that there were no offers for him.

Knowing how Marv operates, if the Bengals aren't getting exactly what they want in a situation, they will deny it. Like the Palmer situation. I believe the team was looking for a 1st, and probably more, and no one offered that so Marvin says that there were no offers.

(02-23-2017, 05:05 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I don't have any problem with McCarron either, I just know our fan base has a tendency to slightly overrate the backups and late draft picks. It happens all the time. I just try to be a voice of reason and reel people back down to earth. What makes McCarron better than Kessler?


If you want to believe that was an epic comeback, that's your right. If he hadn't put a goose egg on the scoreboard through 3 quarters, he wouldn't have needed a comeback. Plus he didn't lead any TD drives over 46 yards, so I'm not sure how it was "epic". He didn't put on a superman cape...He had tons of help.


You joke, but sometimes I wonder if that really plays into why people like the guy so much. He was famous for being the Alabama QB with the hot wife. People think he's destined for NFL stardom because he was famous in college.

(02-23-2017, 05:42 PM)J24 Wrote: If hill doesn't fumble then AJ would have been a legend in this city forever. 

(02-23-2017, 05:46 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Undeservedly so. Burfict was the real hero if we won. McCarron finally put 2 TDs on the damn scoreboard.

That should be expected, not celebrated.

(02-23-2017, 05:51 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Come on Shake, be fair.

AJ put up 1 TD. Hill ran in the other TD.

(02-23-2017, 06:25 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I am being fair. All credit goes to McCarron for the epic comeback and the 16 points we scored over the entire game. 

What a hero.

(02-23-2017, 06:40 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah and i know Dalton has never played great in the Playoffs but i don't think it is far fetched that he would of
played better than McCarron did in that game. Sad the way it played out cause i truly think we would of won atleast
the Steeler game and would of pushed the Broncos if we had a shot at them.

Sucks man, that was our shot evidently and Dalton just got hurt.

Happened before with Palmer.

(02-23-2017, 01:05 PM)J24 Wrote: He still lead an epic comeback and simply dismissing it is BS. Just because he is not as good as Andy doesn't mean he is not a good QB in his own right.

(02-23-2017, 10:40 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Man oh man, being a Bengals fan is rough.  Even our "epic comebacks" don't result in wins.

(02-23-2017, 12:26 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Lol. You can't possibly be that dense. What's 8 games vs 4 have to do with it? Are you saying that's too small of a sample size for comparison? Or are you saying that Kessler somehow put up better efficiency numbers on a worse team because he played a little more?

If you're saying it's too small of a sample size, I could agree with that. But then I would say what makes anyone think McCarron (a 26 year old 5th round pick) is worth a 1st rounder based on 4 games? If you're saying Kessler posted better stats because he played more, I'd respond by saying (a) the Browns and (b) efficiency numbers don't go up when a QB plays more.  

If "the hate is real", you should easily be able to explain what makes McCarron better than Kessler. You can't.

(02-23-2017, 07:54 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: I heard bill polian on mike and mike the other day.  He wasn't really on high on this qb class, at least as first rounders go.  His general assessment was that the nfl was becoming like the nba in terms of drafting on potential.  He went on to say trubisky and Watson were a yer away and Kizer was two.  The blame was put on the offenses colleges run and that they aren't preparing qb's for the pro game.  They aren't ready to read defenses, call or change plays etc.  I don't expect a first rounder for him but a 2nd this year and conditional 2nd or 3rd next year seems reasonable.

(02-23-2017, 06:25 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I am being fair. All credit goes to McCarron for the epic comeback and the 16 points we scored over the entire game. 

What a hero.