(08-09-2017, 01:59 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: We are getting hands down the back up QB in the league in 2017 factoring in his salary and experience, not even close. I know many think all teams can spend as much as they want, but they can't so a guy like AJ making $700K to fill a key back up role versus 2 to 3 million matters.

We re getting a ton for him right now in experience and value in case AD goes down!

(08-09-2017, 03:59 PM)BleedNOrange Wrote: If Dalton goes down for any significant amount of time, the season is lost.  We are not good enough (and most teams aren't) to overcome losing our starting QB.  So basically you don't want to trade McCarron for a potential starter for the risk of having to play McCarron for 2-3 games at most out of 16, similar to the end of 2015.  In a perfect scenario, McCarron never sees the field so he is not adding any value.  They need to at least hear offers.

(08-09-2017, 04:32 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Everyone that has been clamoring for AJ to be traded sure will look silly if we get to 8-1 and then Dalton gets hurt and we have to finish the season with Driskell...

(08-09-2017, 03:59 PM)BleedNOrange Wrote: If Dalton goes down for any significant amount of time, the season is lost.  We are not good enough (and most teams aren't) to overcome losing our starting QB.  So basically you don't want to trade McCarron for a potential starter for the risk of having to play McCarron for 2-3 games at most out of 16, similar to the end of 2015.  In a perfect scenario, McCarron never sees the field so he is not adding any value.  They need to at least hear offers.

(08-09-2017, 07:10 PM)Nately120 Wrote: True, but what if we just need someone to hold serve for a few weeks until Dalton is back on the field?  The NFL's concussion protocol makes a starting QB missing a game or two a lot more likely now, so I wouldn't just assume Dalton missing time means missing the rest of the season.

(08-09-2017, 05:17 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote:  
You are wrong. That is Jimmy Garoppolo, and it's not even close.
I'd also consider making Matt Moore the second best backup, though apparently Gase was looking for more Bromance with Cutler.

If Dalton goes down, we're screwed. McCarron won't change that.



Yup.


Why, so McCarron can take the best offensive weapons this team has ever seen... and beat the 5-win Ryan Mallett-led Ravens and 5-win Blaine Gabbert-led 49ers, while losing to anyone that actually resembles a real NFL team?

Yeah, we will look real silly.

(08-09-2017, 09:28 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Garoppolo makes 1.1 million or 400k more and will be a free agent in 2018 while AJ will not be a free agent in 2018 meaning one more year of value. But yes I did forget Jimmy, but I am not sold he is that much better than AJ, he plays in a great system, but we will see if Pats pay him big bucks in 2018 or trade him

(08-09-2017, 11:56 AM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: Denver will get AJ McCarron
Cincinnati will get a First Round Pick in next years draft, a conditional Second Round pick and Von Miller after Denver extends him for three years and pays his contract so Bengals get him for free for next three years.

That's the only way Mike Brown will do a trade or for $10,000,000.00

(08-09-2017, 08:17 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: It's pretty much a moot point as there wasn't much, if anything to these rumors.  

Kapearnick is still out there so we wouldn't have to go driskell.  If the broncos would have included siemian in any deal he could get us thru 1-3 games just as well.  This thread has pretty much run its course


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(08-09-2017, 10:47 PM)jtsmith38 Wrote: Would not want Kapearnick, even if it meant going 0-16.
That guy is a despicable disgrace.

(08-09-2017, 11:00 PM)jowczarski Wrote: Glad you guys are smart enough to not really buy into that stuff. Really ridiculous. And untrue of course.

(08-09-2017, 11:03 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Yeah for several reasons...the main one being they have 2 QB's that are similar in skills to McCarron that know their system.

Jim - IF the Bengals got offered a 1st Round pick for McCarron...right now - Would they trade him in your opinion?

I tend to think they wouldn't because they'd be down to Driskel as the backup.

(08-09-2017, 11:03 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Yeah for several reasons...the main one being they have 2 QB's that are similar in skills to McCarron that know their system.

Jim - IF the Bengals got offered a 1st Round pick for McCarron...right now - Would they trade him in your opinion?

I tend to think they wouldn't because they'd be down to Driskel as the backup.

(08-10-2017, 08:26 AM)muskiesfan Wrote: There is the constant argument that no one can hurl negativity at McCarron because there is not enough to judge him on. There's enough to want him to start, to say he's better than Dalton, to compare him to all-time greats and HOF QBs, but not enough to "unfairly" judge him or to contradict any of the previously mentioned positive thoughts. To question McCarron means you're a hater, stupid, or swinging from Dalton's ballsack. That's the general consensus I've learned from this board.

However, McCarron has a ton more playing time and tape than Driskel. Since Driskel is not McCarron though we can all automatically say he sucks and bash him and complain about how he doesn't deserve to share the same air as McCarron. Got it.

(08-09-2017, 11:00 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: While I don't condone what Kaepernick did by any means...was what he did worse than Roethlisberger and the alleged rape and some of the other things that happened in the NFL? Granted Roethlisberger was never charged.

Or how about a guy like Mixon punching a girl? Was that worse than what Kaepernick did? Mixon gets a 2nd change.

Or how about guys who get suspended for PED's or drugs? They get 2nd chances.

Or Adam Jones? He's gotten about 5 2nd chances.

I mean people want freedom of speech in the US until someone does something they don't like.

Do I agree with Kaepernick? No. Do I think he's a huge idiot? Yes. Do I think what he did deserves banishment from the NFL. No. There are guys playing who have done far worse.