(11-13-2017, 03:26 AM)Bengalsrob Wrote: I didn't predict 10 wins, I don't think I even made a guess; as what I figured would happen is pretty much coming to fruition. Very hard to play this level of football without an O-line. We could probably draft the entire O-line on many college teams and make us markedly better.  As to whether Dalton, Mixon, or anybody else is any good, who knows? Pretty sure the coaching staff as a whole needs to go, and I've said this for several YEARS now. I didn't even watch our game other than what popped up on the Redzone, as I pretty much can't handle the stress. I did watch the Patriots in the nightcap, and the coaching is ALL that matters. Exhibit A, Rex Burkhead, could barely make it off the bench here, all world for New England tonight. Other than Brady and Gronk, it would be hard to name any "superstars" on their team, where one could say....if we only had THAT guy on our team it would fix everything. All in all, I've never seen the North suck this badly. While Cleveland is still the worst, the Ravens and us aren't far behind. The Steelers are so bored with their division competition, they're losing their edge. They didn't have to blatantly cheat even once to destroy us, and they won't next time either, though they probably will a time or two to keep sharp for the playoffs. Possibly the worst season ever, in the 90's we went into most seasons without any expectations; and we probably should have done the same for this year.  

(11-13-2017, 02:09 AM)Atomic Orange Wrote: We were bad last year with Whit and Z. Sure not this bad but bad.

We need some new blood, a new direction. Actually we have needed it since San Diego.

You start there and see what happens.

(11-13-2017, 12:30 PM)Go Cards Wrote: It was not because of Whit and Z though. 

Just going from memory, but seems we gave up 45 sacks last season and Whit and Z only accounted for 3 of them.

Ship them out and keep the others that gave up 42 sacks between them and not draft or sign them any help. 

The writing was on the wall.

(11-13-2017, 12:30 PM)Go Cards Wrote: It was not because of Whit and Z though. 

Just going from memory, but seems we gave up 45 sacks last season and Whit and Z only accounted for 3 of them.

Ship them out and keep the others that gave up 42 sacks between them and not draft or sign them any help. 

The writing was on the wall.

(11-13-2017, 12:10 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: Everyone that did predict 10 wins now is hiding. Burk head was another good character guy. I don't know if they did the white clensing thing or if you don't have character issues, ship them out. We can't lose the Dunlap types all of the time and alway keep the packmans of the world and expect discipline.

(11-12-2017, 06:54 PM)Igor Wrote: We'll we ain't getting there with a ginger at qb

(11-12-2017, 06:55 PM)Igor Wrote: Same old bengals man. Should have never got rid of Carson palmer

(11-13-2017, 01:25 PM)Atomic Orange Wrote: Using the Burkhead example above i was also implying the problem was most likely coaching. The coaches need replaced across the board.

To be more specific coaching and ownership. 

We can't do anything about the latter except stop watching.

(11-12-2017, 06:41 PM)Brimey Wrote: Team isn't good. From top to bottom. Too many holes to fill in one off season too.

(11-13-2017, 01:56 PM)packerbacker Wrote: I cant wait for the day someday we see a Packers Bengals superbowl. I know it wont be this year but someday I hope.