(11-24-2017, 02:12 PM)Benton Wrote: Pretty much my thoughts. I think we'll end up with 6 or 7 wins, Marvin will blame the slow start on assistants and players. Mike will shake his head and give him 'one more chance' and we'll end up with a very similar show next year. Because even if Marvin throws assistants under the bus and makes a change or two, it's going to take that staff a season to make any changes.

Unless Mike is just completely fed up with 'one more chance I don't expect a HC change because I don't think Mike wants to wait the 2-3 seasons it's likely to take to get back to where we were... so he clings onto the hope that Marvin can patch it up.

(11-24-2017, 01:21 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: The Browns win will put us at 5-6. 

We're likely to finish with a 7-9 record at least. 

I can't picture Mike firing a coach after a 7-9 season when 4-12 + 10 straight L's (in a season where we had SB aspirations) didn't get it done.

(11-24-2017, 02:12 PM)Benton Wrote: Pretty much my thoughts. I think we'll end up with 6 or 7 wins, Marvin will blame the slow start on assistants and players. Mike will shake his head and give him 'one more chance' and we'll end up with a very similar show next year. Because even if Marvin throws assistants under the bus and makes a change or two, it's going to take that staff a season to make any changes.

Unless Mike is just completely fed up with 'one more chance I don't expect a HC change because I don't think Mike wants to wait the 2-3 seasons it's likely to take to get back to where we were... so he clings onto the hope that Marvin can patch it up.

(11-24-2017, 02:15 PM)corpjet Wrote: If Marvin had another year on his contract I would bet the house he's staying.

Since he does not he's gone like a soldier in the civil war bang bang (Montgomery Gentry song for those not familiar) 

(11-24-2017, 03:02 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I disagree in the sense that I think Marvin's done. I just sense that he's done coaching and thus, he'll tell Mike to start searching for his replacement. I'm sure they'll agree to spin it in whatever way works best for the team (Mike intentionally not renewing Marvin's contract so that Mike can appear to want to win, for example), but either way, I think Marvin's done and Mike knows it.

(11-24-2017, 01:21 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: The Browns win will put us at 5-6. 

We're likely to finish with a 7-9 record at least. 

I can't picture Mike firing a coach after a 7-9 season when 4-12 + 10 straight L's (in a season where we had SB aspirations) didn't get it done.

(11-24-2017, 03:02 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I disagree in the sense that I think Marvin's done. I just sense that he's done coaching and thus, he'll tell Mike to start searching for his replacement. I'm sure they'll agree to spin it in whatever way works best for the team (Mike intentionally not renewing Marvin's contract so that Mike can appear to want to win, for example), but either way, I think Marvin's done and Mike knows it.

(11-24-2017, 03:50 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: That was during the Offseason where he couldn't get a new HC and we got a new QB.

I don't like Marv or as you call him Merv which i don't get yet but it might of been the best decision at the time.

Quote:The uncertain labor issues and the possibility of a lockout were speculated to have a minimizing effect on coaching changes prior to the 2011 season, with owners predicted to be more hesitant than usual to hire a high-price, high-profile head coach.[67] Nevertheless, eight coaches were fired either during or immediately after the 2010 NFL season, compared to three in the year prior; only one of the new hires (John Fox) had ever been a head coach in the NFL prior to their hirings or promotions. However, Leslie Frazier, and Jason Garrett did get some experience as interim coaches during the 2010 season, with Garrett being successful in his debut season, going 5–3 in his tenure, improving the 1–7 Cowboys to a 6–10 season.

(11-24-2017, 03:07 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Not necessarily. While it's true that Mike won't fire a coach with years left on his deal, the "lame duck" status didn't stop Mike from bringing Merv back after we went 4-12 in 2010.


Merv throwing players under the bus every week (Hill, Ross, Bullock) leads me to believe he's very much NOT done.

(11-24-2017, 09:59 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I have this gut wrenching feeling we're gonna get basically a repeat of the 2010-11 off season. We'll end up 7-9 after beating a couple bottom half teams, Browns, Bears, throw in a meaningless win against Ravens to close, while losing to the 3 good team left, Steelers, Vikings, and Lions.

Mikey will call a presser where he spews out some drivel about maintaining continuity, we've done some good things, blah, blah, so Merv will be staying. PA will be back ! Oh they'll promote the water boy to OC, and fire some obscure assistant to the assistant defensive assistant. We'll lose a couple more good players. Gotta get those comp. picks that don't make the 53.

And we'll be singing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXt5NWY5Ay0&list=PLLFxufQM_PMvSRoYnREzI9st62q_PdhOb

(11-24-2017, 02:15 PM)corpjet Wrote: If Marvin had another year on his contract I would bet the house he's staying.

Since he does not he's gone like a soldier in the civil war bang bang (Montgomery Gentry song for those not familiar) 

(11-24-2017, 02:39 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: This only happens if Hue is fired and he comes back as OC. Then it’s probably marvin for two years then hue if all goes back to normal.

(11-24-2017, 03:02 PM)PhilHos Wrote: .

I disagree in the sense that I think Marvin's done. I just sense that he's done coaching and thus, he'll tell Mike to start searching for his replacement. I'm sure they'll agree to spin it in whatever way works best for the team (Mike intentionally not renewing Marvin's contract so that Mike can appear to want to win, for example), but either way, I think Marvin's done and Mike knows it.

(11-24-2017, 09:25 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: Marvin Lewis is fired at the end of the season.
Bengals hire new head coach.
Marvin Lewis gets hired in Tampa.
Three years later, the Bengals fans are yelling for a new coach
Three years later, the Tampa Bay fans are celebrating a Super Bowl win.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

(11-24-2017, 11:08 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: I think Marvin Lewis may just be the Dusty Baker of the NFL. He can show up and take a team that is in the dark ages and help shape it and start to show it the light, even get the team to the playoffs. However, that is the end of the road there. 

Dusty took the Cubs, Reds and even Nationals from the bottom to the playoffs but could never out manage other coaches when it mattered the most. 
Marvin came to a franchise that was a disaster and managed to salvage the team and show it the light, even got them to the playoffs and being respectable, but when it matters the most or there is good coaches on the other side, he crumbles.

Dusty always seems to struggle against that one major rival. No matter how good the Reds were, they were always the Cardinals little brother.
Marvin can not find a way to beat the steelers, no matter how much talent the team seems to have.

I could see Marvin leaving and even going to a team like Tampa, or Chicago or some other team in a year of two and doing the exact same thing. Getting them to the playoffs, but not being able to get a playoff win or pushing forward. 

(11-16-2017, 12:08 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Agreed.   The Bengals and Giants will probably be the best jobs.   And Bengals probably have the lead because they have Tobin in place.

(12-24-2017, 10:16 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: Marvin doesn’t sound like a guy that thinks he’s done (coaching) here.