(08-25-2015, 02:00 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'd brush this off as merely pre-season had the errors exhibited not been exceedingly representative of this team's real-game failings.  Furthermore, if the Steelers looked this bad in a prime-time pre-season game we'd be predicting a 5-11 season for them.

(08-25-2015, 02:25 PM)djs7685 Wrote: That's why I do think there are concerns, but it has been a borderline comedy act on the boards since the end of that game.

A week ago, according to the general consensus of the boards, Andy was improved, Gio was a great RB2, Hill was going to be the #1 RB in the league, A.J. was solidly a top 5/10 WR, Eifert is uncoverable, our o-line was the best in the league, and our defense was back to life.

One game, ONE game that highlighted some big mental errors by our first string, and in the last 12 hours, I've seen...

A.J. isn't even top 10
"Andy still sucks" (Exact name of a thread)
Gio isn't good anymore/is declining
Hill is going to fumble too much
Eifert is coverable and good TEs don't drop that pass
Offensive line proven to be suspect
Defense is too vanilla

One preseason game caused all of those overreactions. I mean, I never thought I'd be arguing on this side of the fence, but people have been absolutely ridiculous today and last night.

(08-25-2015, 09:39 AM)djs7685 Wrote: Stuff I've seen thus far last night and today.

A.J. Green is obviously no longer a top 10 receiver. 1 mistake in a preseason game confirms this.
Andy Dalton sucks. 1 bad INT and a couple other poor decisions in a preseason game brings the confirmation level to 100%.
Offensive Line has proven to not be very good. PFF has lied about their ability over a 4 year span because of 1 preseason game.
Guenther runs a vanilla defense. Again, meaningless games have proven this to be true. We've never seen a team run vanilla in the preseason, right?
Gio sucks now. In a game where even Hill couldn't hit a hole, I'm sure Gio's statsheet tells the entire story!

It's easy to sum it up. We're just talkin' about preseason. Listen, we talking 'bout preseason. Not the regular season, not the regular season, we talkin' about preseason. Not a regular season game, not the regular season game that they go out there and die for, we talkin' about preseason, man. How silly is this when we're talkin' about preseason???

(08-25-2015, 02:04 PM)Derrick Wrote: I don't have a problem with their losing a preseason game, BUT I have a problem with the team AGAIN looking like a hot, steamy, cow pile in prime time. It smelled a lot like the last 4 playoff games. :angry: This coaching staff does NOT have the ability to get the team ready to play. 

(08-25-2015, 09:48 AM)Stewy Wrote: I agree, but the "Chicken Little Squad" just loves to over react.

TB wanted to make a good showing n front of their fans, and they actually game planned and blitzed to show off.  When one tries to win in the pre-season it says something about the quality of the team and expectations.  Now no one enjoys seeing their team perform poorly, but it's pre-season and meaningless.  The Bengals record is currently 0-0 and will remain so until week 1.

With that said, it doesn't help us evaluate young layers when the opposing team is game planning to win.  Reminds me of the NO game in 2008 when Palmer got his nose bloodied.

(08-25-2015, 03:33 PM)OBX Bengal Wrote: I was listening to Mike Florio this afternoon.  His take on it was that the game was meaningless.  He said that Tampa had not won at home for ten straight games and that Tampa was playing to win that game to generate fan interest in the team, while Cincinnati was playing to win in January.

(08-25-2015, 01:49 PM)ExtraRadiohead Wrote: It's not practice though it's the 2nd of 4 unnecessary pre-season game with a vanilla scheme. If guys aren't hustling in the 2nd half then it's only going to hurt them later. Pre-season is less about dominating the opponent and more about individual performances anyways so if guys aren't going to motivate themselves to put out a good tape for other teams then that doesn't hurt the Bengals unless they decide to keep that player.

(08-25-2015, 02:25 PM)djs7685 Wrote: That's why I do think there are concerns, but it has been a borderline comedy act on the boards since the end of that game.

A week ago, according to the general consensus of the boards, Andy was improved, Gio was a great RB2, Hill was going to be the #1 RB in the league, A.J. was solidly a top 5/10 WR, Eifert is uncoverable, our o-line was the best in the league, and our defense was back to life.

One game, ONE game that highlighted some big mental errors by our first string, and in the last 12 hours, I've seen...

A.J. isn't even top 10
"Andy still sucks" (Exact name of a thread)
Gio isn't good anymore/is declining
Hill is going to fumble too much
Eifert is coverable and good TEs don't drop that pass
Offensive line proven to be suspect
Defense is too vanilla

One preseason game caused all of those overreactions. I mean, I never thought I'd be arguing on this side of the fence, but people have been absolutely ridiculous today and last night.

(08-25-2015, 09:39 AM)djs7685 Wrote: Stuff I've seen thus far last night and today.

A.J. Green is obviously no longer a top 10 receiver. 1 mistake in a preseason game confirms this.
Andy Dalton sucks. 1 bad INT and a couple other poor decisions in a preseason game brings the confirmation level to 100%.
Offensive Line has proven to not be very good. PFF has lied about their ability over a 4 year span because of 1 preseason game.
Guenther runs a vanilla defense. Again, meaningless games have proven this to be true. We've never seen a team run vanilla in the preseason, right?
Gio sucks now. In a game where even Hill couldn't hit a hole, I'm sure Gio's statsheet tells the entire story!

It's easy to sum it up. We're just talkin' about preseason. Listen, we talking 'bout preseason. Not the regular season, not the regular season, we talkin' about preseason. Not a regular season game, not the regular season game that they go out there and die for, we talkin' about preseason, man. How silly is this when we're talkin' about preseason???

(08-25-2015, 09:39 AM)djs7685 Wrote: Stuff I've seen thus far last night and today.

A.J. Green is obviously no longer a top 10 receiver. 1 mistake in a preseason game confirms this.
Andy Dalton sucks. 1 bad INT and a couple other poor decisions in a preseason game brings the confirmation level to 100%.
Offensive Line has proven to not be very good. PFF has lied about their ability over a 4 year span because of 1 preseason game.
Guenther runs a vanilla defense. Again, meaningless games have proven this to be true. We've never seen a team run vanilla in the preseason, right?
Gio sucks now. In a game where even Hill couldn't hit a hole, I'm sure Gio's statsheet tells the entire story!

It's easy to sum it up. We're just talkin' about preseason. Listen, we talking 'bout preseason. Not the regular season, not the regular season, we talkin' about preseason. Not a regular season game, not the regular season game that they go out there and die for, we talkin' about preseason, man. How silly is this when we're talkin' about preseason???

(08-25-2015, 04:42 PM)BonnieBengal Wrote: On Green, I wish he wouldn't just give up on plays after an interception.  He's supposed to turn around and play defense

On Guenther:  Remember last year when we thought he was just playing vanilla in preseason, then found out our defense had drastically declined?

(08-25-2015, 04:42 PM)BonnieBengal Wrote: On Green, I wish he wouldn't just give up on plays after an interception.  He's supposed to turn around and play defense

On Guenther:  Remember last year when we thought he was just playing vanilla in preseason, then found out our defense had drastically declined?

(08-25-2015, 02:25 PM)djs7685 Wrote: That's why I do think there are concerns, but it has been a borderline comedy act on the boards since the end of that game.

A week ago, according to the general consensus of the boards, Andy was improved, Gio was a great RB2, Hill was going to be the #1 RB in the league, A.J. was solidly a top 5/10 WR, Eifert is uncoverable, our o-line was the best in the league, and our defense was back to life.

One game, ONE game that highlighted some big mental errors by our first string, and in the last 12 hours, I've seen...

A.J. isn't even top 10
"Andy still sucks" (Exact name of a thread)
Gio isn't good anymore/is declining
Hill is going to fumble too much
Eifert is coverable and good TEs don't drop that pass
Offensive line proven to be suspect
Defense is too vanilla

One preseason game caused all of those overreactions. I mean, I never thought I'd be arguing on this side of the fence, but people have been absolutely ridiculous today and last night.

(08-25-2015, 04:54 PM)Nights Watch Wrote: It was no different last week, when after a preseason week 1 game, people on here where talking Super Bowl, All-Pro Selections, polls about not losing our first game until past week 8, etc. 

(08-25-2015, 05:00 PM)djs7685 Wrote: Hilarious what these preseason games can do, eh?

I did find it funny that some people were baffled at our schedule and couldn't even decide when we could possibly lose a game.

(08-25-2015, 03:33 PM)OBX Bengal Wrote: I was listening to Mike Florio this afternoon.  His take on it was that the game was meaningless.  He said that Tampa had not won at home for ten straight games and that Tampa was playing to win that game to generate fan interest in the team, while Cincinnati was playing to win in January.

(08-25-2015, 01:01 PM)Wyche Wrote: The lack of effort is what concerns me.....it was a horse shit effort across the board.  Losing is one thing, lack of effort is inexcusable.....practice or not......at least that's the way I was taught to play the game.  I've been on the end of plenty of lopsided losses, doesn't mean we QUIT.