(08-31-2015, 01:04 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Mostly expected, but Nico was a strange one (but he is PS eligible). I guess that means Roach has impressed, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Roach on the last batch so that he can squeak onto the PS, and if he somehow makes the 53 man then I will be really impressed.

(08-31-2015, 04:04 PM)SFmajor Wrote: Never say Never!  But I think the only way that Roach makes the 53 man roster is if Hawk is released.  Otherwise, he'll probably land on the PS and wait his turn Or Roach is picked up by another team that needs a back-up MLB. 

Now about Hawk.  In the first game we really didn't see much of him.  In games 2 and 3, his play was average.  He also played with the 2's and 3's in Game three.  So, he is showing that he will be a difference maker on the 53 man Roster for 2015? 

Glad I am not the one making this decision.  But if the Bengals are going to take at least the AFC Championship this year, are they putting the best players on the Roster to give them the best chance of doing this?

(08-31-2015, 03:32 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Your logic is severely flawed.

A defense that was top 10 with a player and then 22nd without him is indeed not standing pat at all.

He was the top DE FA other than guys with character flaws available in FA in 2015. So, he is new to the 2015 team and had nothing to do with the 2014 playoff loss, just like none of the 2015 rookies also had nothing to do with 2014 playoff loss or any playoff losses for them.

If you feel having a top 10 or top 5 defense is no bog deal and you would rather try and win with a 22nd ranked defense I guess we don't see eye to eye.

(08-31-2015, 04:28 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: My logic is "severely flawed" yet you completely sidestepped my very valid question while accusing me of saying things that I didn't say. I never said MJ won't help. I beleieve he will - during regular season.

But I fail to see how a player who was a key cog in teams that lost 3 straight playoff games - including the worst one of all IMO - is going to be a piece that is going to put us over the top. After all, last year's playoff loss is what inspired those comments from Mike/Marv.

So do you think MJ will be that key piece that gets us over the top? Please explain.

(08-31-2015, 03:44 PM)Element Wrote: Was confused at the hype Moore got when he was signed

(08-31-2015, 01:27 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: "Oh yeah, (Mike Brown) is the one leading the charge," Lewis said via the Cincinnati Enquirer. "He doesn't want to hear, 'We will be better when we get these guys back.' No, we need to get better. He knows we need to get better. He's pushing people to identify players that will make us a better football team in free agency."

Players they identified that made them a better football team:

Michael Johnson (essentially getting a guy back)
AJ Hawk
Denarius Moore (cut)

(08-31-2015, 04:43 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Imo Not by himself.... He was always pretty consistant though and if he can effectively eat up snaps it should help the pass rushing ends stay fresh.

And helps keep some Possible Double teams from Geno or Dunlap here and there.

But the key to our DL is a healthy rotation which he will help. and we didnt have last year.

Not overall much improved from 2013 except in the experience factor for some of our younger guys... Some of the bigger of which miss all of 2014 true but should get most if not all of 2015 under their belts before the next go round in the playoffs.

(08-31-2015, 06:10 PM)jj22 Wrote: Wonder why they are holding out hope for Ghee? Seems like we've seen this movie before with him. Not sure what they are waiting for. Like putting Porter on the PUP list...... What has he shown to get the Peko treatment.

(08-31-2015, 06:12 PM)Shady Wrote: Good question. I would think Troy Hill would make them forget all about Ghee. Plus, we have Shaw presumably ahead of Ghee on the depth chart.

(08-31-2015, 11:30 AM)Hammerstripes Wrote: I was a little surprised at the Nico Johnson cut.  Maybe that was my high hopes that since he was healthy that he would be a contributor.

(08-31-2015, 11:34 AM)Shady Wrote: Maybe not surprised, but certainly disappointed. Nico between Burfict and Dawson would have been pretty amazing. Instead, we get "Whiff" Maualuga again, probably just because they overpaid to keep him. And what has Hawk shown since he's been here?

(08-31-2015, 04:28 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: My logic is "severely flawed" yet you completely sidestepped my very valid question while accusing me of saying things that I didn't say. I never said MJ won't help. I beleieve he will - during regular season.

But I fail to see how a player who was a key cog in teams that lost 3 straight playoff games - including the worst one of all IMO - is going to be a piece that is going to put us over the top. After all, last year's playoff loss is what inspired those comments from Mike/Marv.

So do you think MJ will be that key piece that gets us over the top? Please explain.

(08-31-2015, 06:54 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I feel players get better, guys like Geno will be better in 2015. AJ Green likely will not miss 6 games. We likely will not be missing our 2 top WR's and 3 top TE's in the same playoff game. Guys like Dre, Dennard, IIoka and others should get better.

Then, you add a player like MJ to get the DL rotation back to 8 or 9 guys so they can stay fresh. MJ is a better starting DE than Gilberry (more complete) so it allows the guys like Gilberry, Peko and Geno to take more plays off.

I like our roster. I like Marvin Jones. I like Tyler Eifert. I feel MJ and Hawk in addition to more experience from some young guys added to a lot of keys guys injured in 2015 back from 2014 gives us a very good roster.

(08-31-2015, 07:06 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I agree with a lot of this, but I don't see this team as being any better than the '13 version, and that team failed in the playoffs in spectacular fashion as well.

(08-31-2015, 03:44 PM)Element Wrote: Was confused at the hype Moore got when he was signed

(08-31-2015, 06:58 PM)Stormborn Wrote: Add Weisman and Reese to the list

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