(10-24-2018, 02:26 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Stats never tell the whole story nor will they ever tell the whole story. They're like reading the middle 10 chapters in a 20 chapter book.

For example we're down by 21 late in a game and get 2 pressures, see what I mean ?

(10-24-2018, 01:59 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I mean, i would be all for this but the coaches don't seem to be for whatever reason with Westerman.

He just never gets a shot at RG.

Also, what is Price's timeline? Heard from his own mouth he would be back for the Steelers game and he is
still out a game later? This has me concerned now if he doesn't make it back this week.

(10-24-2018, 02:43 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I have a theory about this.  We've been wondering why no Westerman at RG, when it's been blatantly apparent to everyone who watched him play, that he's a better player.  I believe that the reason is because he's Boling's only backup.  Boling is also the next best OT on the team.  If something happens to Glenn or Hart, and Boling has to play OT, then I believe that you will see Westerman inserted directly at LG.  In other words, they keep him on the shelf to be Boling's only backup.

(10-24-2018, 02:43 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I have a theory about this.  We've been wondering why no Westerman at RG, when it's been blatantly apparent to everyone who watched him play, that he's a better player.  I believe that the reason is because he's Boling's only backup.  Boling is also the next best OT on the team.  If something happens to Glenn or Hart, and Boling has to play OT, then I believe that you will see Westerman inserted directly at LG.  In other words, they keep him on the shelf to be Boling's only backup.

(10-24-2018, 02:36 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: No doubt,

Lazor has got to rewrite the playbook with what we have and find ways to make it work. I think this is often a trap coaches fall into. They are stubborn changing their plan, "it was a good plan I made it up" and they often don't want to adapt it. At least not quickly enough.

This is where the hoodie and whomever he has under him are wizards. They rewrite the book every week.

(10-24-2018, 02:38 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: We need to draft atleast one TE early next year for sure to go along with a couple LB's it seems.

And of course a Guard and Tackle.

BTW, liked what i saw from that Minshew, Guard on your Noles the Gator game Wyche.

Big, mean, looking sumbitch.

(10-24-2018, 02:51 PM)Wyche Wrote: It seems Lazor is game to adjust, but man......the bye can't some soon enough, he's running out of bullets out there.  That being said, he needs to figure it out, and quickly.  I hope he does, and hope that things look better when some players get back out there.

Damn I wish we had Darth Hoodie.  Be nice if he decided to come here to prove the haters are wrong about him winning without Brady....lol.



Yes....and this is why I'm not very upset.....aside from getting curb stomped Sunday night.  You never want to see that.

I've felt all along this team needed another good offseason plugging holes to be a legit contender.  They've actually performed above my expectations to this point.....but we need to beat Tampa.  I'd be looking for a TE in FA.....or a backer.  Honestly though, CJ and Kroft aren't that bad.  OG, OT, and LB seem to be our worst holes right now.

Minshew was a top prospect in 2015.  It's hard to gauge any of our olinemen based on how poorly the unit, as a whole, has played.  He certainly looks the part, and played well at the end of 2106.

(10-24-2018, 02:51 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: You may be exactly right Sunset but can you sacrifice games just to keep somebody safe to be a back up ?

Why not roll the dice and have Redmond be the back up ? I mean that's why they're back ups. 

(10-24-2018, 03:05 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Those are the holes no question. Uzomah has looked good to me, just is not targeted enough by Dalton which is
really my only problem with Dalton especially lately, he has been trying to force the ball to AJ. This makes the entire
Offense predictable. Run it with Mixon, get a couple, two passes to AJ Green, repeat.

Atleast that is what happened last game. Need to try and spread the ball around a little more and Mixon is a WR too.

Would think Lazor would be loving all the ways to use Mixon, he is not just a RB and Boyd looks like a stud all of a
sudden. We need to add as you say a TE, LB and an O-lineman right now before the bye so they can get into the
system. Lengel is not the answer, Schreck is out for the year.

Don't know what TE's are out there that could really help, but getting say Chance Warmack and Hassan Reddick
sure would help immediately IMHO.

(10-23-2018, 11:09 AM)spazz70 Wrote: That is why I believe that you plug Price in at RG when he returns...He played 3 seasons at OSU at RG then 1 season at Center...TJ and Andy seemed to be doing just fine right now.

(10-24-2018, 03:16 PM)Wyche Wrote: Didn't really look like many people were getting open except Green on Sunday night to me.  The ball was being spread around all season up until this game.  I just think the injuries have made us a lot easier to cover.  There was a good post near the end of the Game Day thread about the number of people the Chiefs were able to drop back in coverage as a result of getting pressure and run stuffs with a rather small amount of players.  Made sense.

IDK, they have to figure something out pretty quickly.

(10-24-2018, 03:17 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: As much as I'd hate to lose that stud Center we've been waiting for since the Braham days, kicking Price over could save the season.

(10-24-2018, 03:25 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: Trade burfict to raiders fir Rodney Hudson or Gabe Jackson.  Play price at the other spot.  Draft a rt early next year.  Line on its way to being fixed


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(10-24-2018, 09:03 AM)Au165 Wrote: I'll try and find the graphic, but the Bengals give up the 10th fewest QB pressures in the NFL which was completely mind blowing. I think people continue to under estimate how bad lines are across the entire league currently.

(10-25-2018, 11:46 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I do find it comical that Pollock was resoundingly glorified when he was hired as a great offensive line coach, and now to read it here, he cannot tell who is the better RG, Redmond or Westerman.

(10-25-2018, 11:46 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I would not be opposed to putting Price in at RG when he returns, but I'm a layman. I do find it comical that Pollock was resoundingly glorified when he was hired as a great offensive line coach, and now to read it here, he cannot tell who is the better RG, Redmond or Westerman.

(10-25-2018, 11:59 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Rep.

Fans always think they are smarter than NFL coaches because they refuse to acknowledge all the times they were wrong

(10-25-2018, 11:59 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Rep.

Fans always think they are smarter than NFL coaches because they refuse to acknowledge all the times they were wrong

(10-25-2018, 12:12 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Thats you, i have admitted many times when i have been wrong.

Don't remember a time you have.

Also, PA never admitted he was wrong and called it a witch hunt to call out his Center that was the worst in the NFL.