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RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - CJD - 03-10-2020
(03-09-2020, 08:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Sample has good agility and athleticism. Here is how he ranked among TEs at the 2019 combine.
5th in 3 come
5th in 60 yd shuttle
6th in short shuttle
8th in vertical
9th in broad jump
9th in 40 yd
He also has soft hands and a high football IQ.
Plus he is 6'5", 255.
I don't know why everyone seems to think he is trash.
I hope you're right. I just know that, from seeing him play in college and based on the scouting reports written about him, the idea that he is more than average athletically (relative to his peers) seems unlikely.
I'll be rooting for him though. I'd love nothing more than for him to be a huge weapon for Burrow moving forward.
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-10-2020
(03-10-2020, 01:55 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I hope you're right. I just know that, from seeing him play in college and based on the scouting reports written about him, the idea that he is more than average athletically (relative to his peers) seems unlikely.
I'll be rooting for him though. I'd love nothing more than for him to be a huge weapon for Burrow moving forward.
It is hard to judge Sample as he wasn't targeted much in college or here in the passing game and got injured last
season as a rookie. But everything Fred said about him is true. I think he was taken WAY too early in last years draft
but that is in the past and now we can only hope he becomes a great player for us.
He is a great blocker and like Fred said has great hands. I think he needs to work on his route running and he could
at the very least become solid for us.
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - fredtoast - 03-10-2020
(03-10-2020, 01:55 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I hope you're right. I just know that, from seeing him play in college and based on the scouting reports written about him, the idea that he is more than average athletically (relative to his peers) seems unlikely.
I'll be rooting for him though. I'd love nothing more than for him to be a huge weapon for Burrow moving forward.
I am not saying he will be a good player. I am just willing to give him a shot.
I've seen some people complain that the Bengals don't do enough scouting and just rely on other scouting reports, but then the same people complain when the Bengals draft someone other than the ones recommended by the other scouting reports. So some fans complain no matter who they take.
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - Kingslayer - 03-10-2020
https://youtu.be/rSTGOyDFPrU
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - Socal Bengals fan - 03-10-2020
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RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - Ravage - 03-10-2020
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RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - corpjet - 03-11-2020
#FIREDUKETOBIN
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - impactplaya - 03-11-2020
Sample needs to come out in the preseason and make plays
Right out the gate. And not against future grub hub drivers either
He needs to go up vs #1 defenses.
He showed next to nothing in the preseason last year
He was easily the worst TE drafted among the 1st 10 drafted in 2019.
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - Socal Bengals fan - 03-11-2020
Sample is Tony Gonzalez clone. You wait and see.
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - impactplaya - 03-11-2020
(03-11-2020, 12:27 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Sample is Tony Gonzalez clone. You wait and see.
I hope so. Cause that means the offense is clicking and that equals wins.
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - fredtoast - 03-11-2020
(03-11-2020, 11:34 AM)impactplaya Wrote: He was easily the worst TE drafted among the 1st 10 drafted in 2019.
Posts like this are why you are considered a joke around here.
Kahala Warring....zero snaps played
Jace Sternberger...60 snaps played...zero receptions.
Josh Oliver...……..115 snaps played....3 receptions.
You can't just make shit up and claim it is true.
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - impactplaya - 03-11-2020
(03-11-2020, 01:37 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Posts like this are why you are considered a joke around here.
Kahala Warring....zero snaps played
Jace Sternberger...60 snaps played...zero receptions.
Josh Oliver...……..115 snaps played....3 receptions.
You can't just make shit up and claim it is true.
I really could care less. Thanks
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - fredtoast - 03-11-2020
(03-11-2020, 01:44 PM)impactplaya Wrote: I really could care less. Thanks
That means you care now.
But if you could NOT care less then please stop taking up space in this forum with your make believe comments.
You are welcome.
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - impactplaya - 03-11-2020
(03-11-2020, 01:47 PM)fredtoast Wrote: That means you care now.
But if you could NOT care less then please stop taking up space in this forum with your make believe comments.
You are welcome.
BTW FT Warring was on the IR all year
And Sternberger and Oliver were drafted later than Sample
Sample was the 52nd player drafted
Think about that
I can post if I so choose
Last time I checked I've violated no forum rules.
Right now Sample is blown pick
Get over it
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - Mike M (the other one) - 03-11-2020
I think he was drafted in the 2nd because typically TE's are heavily drafted in the 3rd round and the Bengals might have felt he wouldn't still be there when it was their turn in the 3rd.
But never the less, we need to give him a little bit of time to develop. He was a slight project from the start, but with decent athleticism, so we have to wait and see what happens. And I'm all for giving him the chance first, unlike some apparently.
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - impactplaya - 03-11-2020
(03-11-2020, 02:01 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: I think he was drafted in the 2nd because typically TE's are heavily drafted in the 3rd round and the Bengals might have felt he wouldn't still be there when it was their turn in the 3rd.
But never the less, we need to give him a little bit of time to develop. He was a slight project from the start, but with decent athleticism, so we have to wait and see what happens. And I'm all for giving him the chance first, unlike some apparently.
Kinda of funny.when you look at certain players drafted
In that 2nd RD they produced in their rookie years
Meceole Hardman Cheifs
Dk Metcalf Seahawks
Miles Sanders Eagles
Deebo Samuel 49ers
AJ Brown Titans
None of those players I listed are "projects"
They were ready to make plays ,be productive in their
Offensive game plans
Meanwhile the Bengals coaching staff has to put
Training wheels on Sample on his way to bumper Bowling
If ZT and company continously have epic overall draft fails
Like in 2019 it won't see 2 wins a year
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-11-2020
(03-11-2020, 02:01 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: I think he was drafted in the 2nd because typically TE's are heavily drafted in the 3rd round and the Bengals might have felt he wouldn't still be there when it was their turn in the 3rd.
But never the less, we need to give him a little bit of time to develop. He was a slight project from the start, but with decent athleticism, so we have to wait and see what happens. And I'm all for giving him the chance first, unlike some apparently.
Same, well said Mike. I had Sample in some of my Mocks in the 4th or 5th round. I thought it was way early to take him but
that does not mean I do not like the player and could see him doing well here. He has the ability to go along with the size
athleticism and hands to be a very good TE in the NFL.
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - fredtoast - 03-12-2020
(03-11-2020, 02:25 PM)impactplaya Wrote: Kinda of funny.when you look at certain players drafted
In that 2nd RD they produced in their rookie years
Meceole Hardman Cheifs
Dk Metcalf Seahawks
Miles Sanders Eagles
Deebo Samuel 49ers
AJ Brown Titans
None of those players I listed are "projects"
They were ready to make plays ,be productive in their
Offensive game plans
Meanwhile the Bengals coaching staff has to put
Training wheels on Sample on his way to bumper Bowling
If ZT and company continously have epic overall draft fails
Like in 2019 it won't see 2 wins a year
When you judge the picks of 31 teams against the picks of just one team the 31 teams are almost always going to have some better picks.
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - impactplaya - 03-12-2020
(03-12-2020, 01:28 PM)fredtoast Wrote: When you judge the picks of 31 teams against the picks of just one team the 31 teams are almost always going to have some better picks.
Seems like every year the Bengals make the playoffs
They get production from their 1st or 2nd RD picks that same year
RE: PFF on draft success '06-'16 - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-12-2020
(03-12-2020, 02:11 PM)impactplaya Wrote: Seems like every year the Bengals make the playoffs
They get production from their 1st or 2nd RD picks that same year
Have to draft better no question especially when you build your team specifically through the Draft.