(08-10-2020, 06:30 PM)Synric Wrote: During the first 10 games Bobby Hart gave up 4 sacks 3 QB hits and 23 hurries for a total of 30 pressures with 6 games left to play which was the 8th worst pressure rate in the NFL. In 2018 he gave up 39 total pressures with 10 of them being sacks. While Bobby Hart didnt give up as many sacks in 2019 he still allowed alot of pressure on the QB. As a pass protector Hart went from one of the worst in the NFL in 2018 to merely below average in 2019....And hes a better pass protector than run blocker.

(08-10-2020, 06:41 PM)fredtoast Wrote: During the first ten games of the season Mixon only averaged 52 yards per game and less than 3.6 per carry.

I need full season stats and I need to see the full season stats of other players to compare.

(08-10-2020, 02:57 PM)fredtoast Wrote: There is open competition at every position.

(08-10-2020, 11:27 PM)lone bengal Wrote: - The linebacker position still remains a relative mess throughout the season

(08-10-2020, 11:29 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Nothing bold about that one lol, highly likely imo!

(08-10-2020, 11:43 PM)lone bengal Wrote: Agreed just seemed liked a lot of fans were drinking the cool aid. Some were acting like Josh Bynes is some great find even tho he's a journeyman linebacker. Also there been a lot of  hyping up Pratt, Wilson and Davis-Gaither even tho they could turn out like every other 3rd and 4th round backers we have drafted. Hope I'm wrong we had a great offseasn and it would have been impossible to fill every need. I hope the kids play well. 

(08-10-2020, 11:27 PM)lone bengal Wrote: - John Ross scores 6 TD's playing well throughout the season

- Hakeem Adeniji wins a staring guard job at some point

- The linebacker position still remains a relative mess throughout the season

(08-10-2020, 11:43 PM)lone bengal Wrote: Agreed just seemed liked a lot of fans were drinking the cool aid. Some were acting like Josh Bynes is some great find even tho he's a journeyman linebacker. Also there been a lot of  hyping up Pratt, Wilson and Davis-Gaither even tho they could turn out like every other 3rd and 4th round backers we have drafted. Hope I'm wrong we had a great offseasn and it would have been impossible to fill every need. I hope the kids play well. 

(08-11-2020, 12:06 AM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Ya there’s a lot of high expectations on this group. Too high. I’m with you, it’s pretty insane to think we are going to suddenly figure it all out on D while also drafting the messiah at QB.

But hey, this is a bold prediction thread for fun! I think ADG and Wilson are going to be the next Willis-Bowman type combo!

(08-11-2020, 02:35 AM)J24 Wrote: I don't think we're going to be seeing a lot of Wilson and ADG this season. Maybe later in the year but not in the first half of the season. The good news for the LB crew is A.) There playing behind a really good D-Line and B.) It's a position that doesn't have to be great for a team to be successful. All they have to be is not complete poo and they will be an huge improvement over Brown and Vigil.
I foresee Shawn Williams playing LB a lot in Nickel this year.

(08-10-2020, 07:45 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Injuries put Wilson in the starting lineup at LB, he has 140+ tackles.

Darius Phillips scores 4 TDS

Defense holds Lamar Jackson under 80 yards rushing in both games combined

Joe Burrow throws 7TDs in one game

Bengals drop a 50burger on the Browns

(08-10-2020, 10:17 PM)Synric Wrote: He was 8th worst with 30 pressures given up through 10 games 3 pressures a game average that would be 18 more through the last 6 games. 

Even if he improved drastically through those final 6 games and finished with 38 to 40 total pressures on the season and climbed all from 8th worst to 20th worst out of roughtly 64 qualifing tackles that is still back half of the league.

(08-10-2020, 10:17 PM)Synric Wrote: ...and I repeat he's a better in pass protection than run blocking.

(08-11-2020, 12:57 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Ross scored 7 in 13 games a couple years ago. If he stays healthy the entire season I think he has a lot more than 6.

(08-11-2020, 09:31 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Did you somehow know Waynes was going to be injured?    I love Phillips.  

(08-11-2020, 10:26 AM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: All of my predictions shall come true!

(08-11-2020, 05:12 AM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: So Pratt, Shawn Williams and who??? This lb group is a mystery to me

(08-10-2020, 11:46 AM)fredtoast Wrote: No he does not suck.  You are a perfect example of the people who love to make Hart a whipping boy.  You judge him by 2018 and ignore how much he improved in 2019

In 2019 Bobby Hart played 92 more snaps than he did in 2018 (1086 to 994), but even more important the Bengals had 85 more passing plays (attempts + sacks) than 2018 (664 to 579).  Yet Hart only allowed about a third as many sacks in 2019 as 2018 (4 to 11.5) and he cut his penalties in half (12 to 6).  Only 2 of Harts 6 penalties were holding.

There were 64 players that started at least 8 games as an OT last year and played at least 500 snaps.  If you look at snaps per (sacks allowed + holding penalties) Hart ranked 13th among those 64.  He also ranked 25th in sacks per snap. 


https://www.milehighreport.com/2020/2/18/21142328/2019-offensive-line-pass-blocking-review 

(08-10-2020, 11:16 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I’m not arguing with the prediction as much as your perceived unfairness of him being a “whipping boy.”

(08-12-2020, 12:17 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Hart becomes a top 15 LT