(08-19-2020, 09:32 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: Burrow will make any WR look like the new kid on the block ready to take over the NFL

(08-19-2020, 08:22 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: And who has a better story than AJ The Broken?

...I'll try to give a ridiculous amount of rep points to whoever can photoshop AJ onto Bran's Chair here...

(08-19-2020, 09:32 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: Burrow will make any WR look like the new kid on the block ready to take over the NFL, however, i predict it will be neither Ross nor Green. It will be one of our rookies or lower tier players. Young players tend to gel better with players closer to their generation. Ross & Green may have a good game or two, but Boyd, Tate or Higgins or someone else will be moving the chains and making the offense deadly when we need to get that 3rd down to get into the red zone or get that field goal. Ross while young too, has failed to live up to his draft expectations. I hope the coaches dont get Joe addicted to AJ like Andy to Green were. I hope they make him more into a Brady....... ready and willing to throw to anyone open.

(08-19-2020, 05:41 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: John Ross, in 24 games played, has a total of 716 yards.

AJ Green, in only 9 games played in 2018, had 694 yards.

Let that sink in...

(08-19-2020, 05:45 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Too bad Ross could not catch as many passes as Green because Green scored more tds.

Green also had more yards per target in 2017 (9.6) than Ross did last year (9.0).

Ross accounted for less than 15% of the catches in the games he played last year.  In 2017 Green had almost one of every four catches for the Bengals (24.7%)

(08-19-2020, 05:46 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Career totals for percentage of targets caught:

AJ Green - 59%

John Ross - 42%

Drop %:

AJ Green - 6.5%

John Ross - 14.3%

(08-19-2020, 05:58 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Career YPR averages:

AJ Green - 14.8

John Ross - 14.6

(08-19-2020, 05:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I think the true answer is having both out there.
Ross and AJ both have deep ability. AJ is more sure-handed than Ross but Ross is faster and more agile.
Both on the field should really open up underneath routes for Mixon, Uzomah, and Higgins/Tate.

(08-19-2020, 06:06 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Ross in 13 games in the season before: 210 yards. And the year before that: 0 yards.

(08-20-2020, 10:57 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: No argument there.  If they are both out there for 16 games, I honestly believe the Bengals make the playoffs.  Boyd, Higgins, Tate, Sample, Uzo, Mixon, and Gio all benefit tremendously...not to mention Joe Burrow.  

(08-19-2020, 05:36 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: This is like asking if you'd rather have a brand new Corvette or a Ford Focus.

I wish this was made into a poll question just so we could see the overwhelming disparity in the answers.

(08-20-2020, 10:55 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Again, if you ignore the trends you are not looking at the most relevant data for today.  For 2020, who produces more if they play all 16 games.  

(08-20-2020, 10:58 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Ok, if you are going to go that (less relevant direction) way, I will say Ross had 500 yards last year and Green had 0.  

The question was:  If both were healthy all 16 games, who produces more?

(08-19-2020, 05:06 PM)SHRacerX Wrote: Nate was responding to something in another thread with (paraphrasing) a statement that he feels having Green on the field is more important to the rest of the team than Ross.

It seemed pretty logical to me.  Green is more reliable, and has an unbelievable catch radius.  However, upon closer examination, I would rather have Ross.  

Here's why:

Ross gets separation faster than any receiver on the team.  DBs will give him a bigger cushion.  Safeties will drop, helping the rushing attack as well as opening up the middle of the field.  He has that home run ability and I think we finally have the QB to not underthrow him and can hit him deep on extended plays.  

AJ is a great player, and if he is healthy for all 16 games, he is a Mr. Reliable and a sure-handed target.  But remember, they have already started moving Green to the slot at times, to help him shake some of the coverage.  We have Boyd for that.  

If I could only have one of the two for 16 games, I would take Ross.

Thoughts?

(08-19-2020, 05:36 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: This is like asking if you'd rather have a brand new Corvette or a Ford Focus.

I wish this was made into a poll question just so we could see the overwhelming disparity in the answers.

(08-20-2020, 12:52 PM)impactplaya Wrote: Obviously this,offense is such more dynamic when both are on the field . And both have missed have alot of games which
Is relative to the offenses porous exhibition of football the
Last couple years.
A question I ask is what was the reasoning behind drafting
John Ross ? If I recall the reasoning was AJ was facing more
Double teams and the offense needed another WR
That could balance the defense and prevent teams from
Doubling Green.
But did the front office ever envision Ross really becoming
The #1? AJ Green is a future HOF WR ?
I'm a Ross fan but drafting him #9 overall doesn't make
Sense if he was never going to over take AJ as number 1.