(12-01-2020, 12:19 AM)Yojimbo Wrote: Prediction: Next week when some player starts mouthing off on social media, this poll will flip, just like the “has he lost the locker room” polls did. The first poll had 66% saying he lost locker room, then Dunlap did his thing and the next poll was like 90% saying no. Disclosure I voted yes on both of those.

Taylor should never have been hired, so no he should not get another year.

(11-30-2020, 09:03 PM)cj1895 Wrote: Who's the person who accidentally voted "yes"???? The poll is missing a "hell no" option

(12-01-2020, 11:07 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: I say Yes, keep him for one more year.

He inherited a real shitty team from Marvin, AD was already on the decline in Marvin's last year and only continued and got worse. Not only that, but the accumulation of several shitty drafts hit the fan. To me, I don't know if that was Marvin or Duke pulling the strings. Those OL that were drafted, really put us back several years. We all know MB prides himself on drafting and his rookies playing out their full contracts. Guys like Price,

This year was really his first full year, and he did much better than the previous year all around. He got to study the team in his first year and is trying to make changes to the way we have run our Defense, it's not an overnight fix.

Starting with the Draft, FA's (Marvin never got MB to open the purse as much as ZT did, so I'm curious to see how another year goes).

Sure we got bit hard by the injury bug on some of those players, but that's not the Coaches fault, this year was also a funky year with the COVID thing, so it's not business as usual for any team.

Complaining about how much JB was throwing, that's also silly, this is a Passers league now. Ofc we'd love to see more running, but this OL just sucks.  It will be addressed in the Off Season, via Sewell (that will be a big help) and better interior help. We got lucky last year and had little choice but to draft Burrow. So relax, our future is still very bright. Draft Offense and sign Defense has always been my motto on how to turn a team around quickly.

3 players that won't be back will also give us almost 30 mil in cap space.

Now there is no way MB is going to let ZT fail, he will do what is needed this next off season to get this team turned around. They have been in the business long enough to know that this team is not all ZT's fault. Besides if they don't give ZT a decent chance to get things turned around, it will hurt MB's ego even more and hiring a new coach will be even harder to get a decently talented one.

(12-01-2020, 12:28 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I personally chose "No."

With that said, I can be ok with keeping Taylor for year 3 as long as Turner and Anarumo are gone.

(12-01-2020, 01:21 PM)TheBengalsMind Wrote: You know it's amazing that we have 5 people that say yes.

I could maybe get undecided, but yes?

I'm watching Bruce Arians get decimated by former players and coaches in the media. His record as coach is 72-47-1.

You want to talk about releasing the Kraken, they done released 10 of them on poor Bruce Arians.

They're talking about firing him, leaving him in complete disgrace and for all intents and purposes ending his HC career (though he'd still have work as an OC), to hire Josh McDaniels.

The same person who started 6-0 in his career, before actively turning an entire locker room against himself. Though he had controversy beforehand as well.

All because they feel Bruce Arians is full of himself and refuses to tweak his offense to help Tom Brady. Even though they have 4 very winnable games coming up and might end up at 11-5 and will be in the playoffs.

But then we have a coach that is currently on pace, if there isn't a drastic change, to potentially be the worst HC in NFL HISTORY!

We have people in here saying 'well I've seen worse'.

Like only in Cincinnati is that a thing.

It's kind of comical to be honest.

(11-30-2020, 08:19 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I am not guaranteeing that Taylor won't be back next season, but people have to stop saying he won't be fired because "that is the way they have always done it" because things have changed.  

Not one single person predicted that we would spend $145 million of free agents last offseason.   Instead EVERYONE said that they would treat free agency they way they always had.

Personally I think all the money they spent in free agency will make them more likely to replace Taylor.  The Brown's like their money and they don't want to keep a coach who is wasting it.  

Plus the Bengals can't even sell out PBS with only 12,000 tickets available.  No matter how many people were excited by Burrow he won't sell tickets next year.  He has shown flashes of brilliance, but he is still the 23rd ranked QB who only won 2 of 10 games.  Race fans may be excited to see the worlds fastest car, but they won't pay to see some amateur drive it at 50 miles an hour and finish in last place  And that is all Bengal fans are getting from Burrow under Taylor.

(12-01-2020, 01:26 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: I've wrestled with this idea, but the lack of anything resembling an offense without JB really makes me dismissive of this. I was hoping that he can muster something up with Allen/Finley to make a semi-respectable offense, but it's been awful. They had, what, 150 yards of offense from when Joe went down to right now? Had he got to around 300ish (the Jets average 267, not outside the realm of possibilities) , I think the idea has a little more merit. He just doesn't elevate. We cannot wait 4-5 years for him to learn how to utilize players with gameplans/schemes/etc

(12-01-2020, 02:06 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I for sure wouldn't keep Allen or Finley beyond this season. I'd go veteran backup on a 2-3 year deal.