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RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Forever Spinning Vinyl - 03-26-2021 If Sewell is there, grab him regardless who else is on the board. If he sits or moves inside for a season, he'll improve. If there's an injury to Williams or Reiff . . . who is more prepared to take their spot? Adeniji? Johnson? A 2nd round pick not as good as Sewell? There is no downside to Williams and Reiff playing 16 games and Sewell sitting for a year or playing a year at Guard unless he gets injured or isn't a good Guard. The Bengals haven't gotten a quality 2nd round WR since all the way back in 2020 so they need a 1st round WR in 2021? Grab Sewell. Ogbuehi was the 4th Tackle off the board in 2015 and some of you think that a 2nd round OT is now OK? OT Brandon Sherff was the #5 pick in 2015, moved inside to Guard and only produced 4 Pro Bowls and an All Pro season as he stayed at Guard and excelled. He just signed a Franchise tag. Sign me up for that on Cincy's O-line. Quentin Nelson was a 2018 #6 pick at Guard and has three seasons of All-Pro football. I would not consider it a failure if Sewell is picked and stays inside. Ask Mixon if he'd like Sherff or Nelson on Cincy's line or another WR to replace AJ Green. Leaking that Burrow wants Chase could be true or it could be the Bengals have learned from past mistakes and are allowing teams to think they don't want Sewell so no one trades in front of them to grab him. You can't believe anything leaked this time of year, even if it fits what you want to happen. RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - jj22 - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 09:32 AM)BenZoo2 Wrote: You got any links to these failing grades? The few grades I’ve seen thus far are b and c. I can't remember where all I've seen them. Most recent one I read was a D-. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2937958-grading-every-nfl-teams-2021-free-agency-performance RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - TJ528 - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 09:36 AM)jj22 Wrote: I can't remember where all I've seen them. Most recent one I read was a D-. I mean can we really disagree with that assessment by Bleacher Report? I think the D- is deserved. I gave them a C- but I can see why they gave them a D-. Until this team addresses is weaknesses, which prior to free agency there were MANY of, their chances of winning are low. Their weak at WR, OG, C, DE, LB depth. I truly think the only place this team has depth right now is in the secondary. If this team goes out and signs a veteran guard, and a WR then the score goes up to a C because it'd be an average FA. As people on here have said FA isnt over year and I'm looking forward to seeing if the Bengals spend the $$$ they have or they pocket it like normal and carry $$$ over to 2022. RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Whatever - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 09:23 AM)jj22 Wrote: Bengals are already getting failing grades and slammed across the NFL community for this free agency. Passing up on a Tackle for a shiny toy at 5 will likely break the net with giggles of Bengals incompetence. That 2nd round steal (tackle) people are hoping for will not get past KC, PIT, Baltimore etc. The run on tackles to end the 1st round and start of the second will likely leave us stuck with no option or a reach. Not worth the gamble given the poor Free Agency. There are 12 OL in the Top 50 of this draft and 21 in the Top 100. Unless literally every third pick in the 1st and early 2nd are OL, we can get one at 37. Our immediate need is at G, so IOL and T's you can kick inside for a year are all in play. RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - TJ528 - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 09:44 AM)Whatever Wrote: There are 12 OL in the Top 50 of this draft and 21 in the Top 100. Unless literally every third pick in the 1st and early 2nd are OL, we can get one at 37. Our immediate need is at G, so IOL and T's you can kick inside for a year are all in play. You never have to rely on a rookie to start on your offensive line. We've seen how that works out with our drafts in the past. You can draft Sewell at #5 but if he's gone I have no issue going after Chase or Pitts in that position. Unfortunately, this offense needs so much help whether it be on the line or WR that you're gonna have rob peter to pay paul somewhere. If you draft OL in the first round it benefits the OL and hurts your weapons at the skill position. If you draft for skill positions then it hurts your OL. So your damn if you do and damn if you dont. This is why you solve one of the problem area's via free agency which this FO hasnt figured out needs to be done yet. RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Rubekahn29 - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 09:53 AM)TJ528 Wrote: You never have to rely on a rookie to start on your offensive line. We've seen how that works out with our drafts in the past. I honestly think you have to weigh the gap between Chase/Pitts and a 2nd round receiver vs the gap between Sewell/Slater and a 2nd round guard. Whichever gap is biggest, you take that position on the 1st. RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - TheLeonardLeap - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 08:55 AM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: Sewell isn’t ready to start LT day 1. (03-26-2021, 08:57 AM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Right. He's played just as many games with Frank Pollack as Jonah has. He's only got 10 fewer games of NFL experience than Jonah. Over the last 2 years, he's played 4 more football games than Jonah. It's not like Jonah is a highly polished gem right now in comparison. RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Hammerstripes - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 05:43 AM)kevin Wrote: Burrow has his timing down with Chase. Burrow could probably roll out of bed half asleep at hit him with a TD pass. After years together at LSU. Burrow knows Chase's speed. moves, timing. Don Meredith said it takes time for an NFL QB to get the timing of a new WR. So the upside to Chase is THE TIMING is already there between Burrow to Chase. AND YES, with AJ Green and Ross gone, we need a Top Notch WR to add to Boyd and Higgins. Mixon, Boyd and Higgins by themselves would be too easy for NFL Defenses to shut down. a Running Back and 2 WR's is too High School or College for the NFL, and NFL Defenses will make Bengals lucky to win 4 games. LOL. Sure, he has his timing down with a guy that he hasn't played with in over 14 months. RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - ochocincos - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 09:44 AM)Whatever Wrote: There are 12 OL in the Top 50 of this draft and 21 in the Top 100. Unless literally every third pick in the 1st and early 2nd are OL, we can get one at 37. Our immediate need is at G, so IOL and T's you can kick inside for a year are all in play. That's exactly it. Some people think it has to be OL-or-bust in Rd 1. This is a very good OL class, with the glut being in Rds 2-3. Bengals should be able to get a guy who can start immediately in Rd 2 and either an immediate starter or just a year of grooming in Rd 3-4. RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Hammerstripes - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 08:55 AM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: Sewell isn’t ready to start LT day 1. Give me a break. How many 1st round tackles started last year? How many of them stepped in at 18 years old and played at a high level in a power 5 conference? He's ready to start day 1. He wouldn't be viewed as a top 3-5 overall pick if he was a project. RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Joelist - 03-26-2021 The bleacher report stuff is brainless crap like all of their stuff. Translated it says "they didn't sign exactly who I wanted them to sign so I give them a bad grade". RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Nicomo Cosca - 03-26-2021 I wouldn’t give our FA a failing grade. More like a big MEH, so maybe a C. RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Frank Booth - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 08:55 AM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: Sewell isn’t ready to start LT day 1. Good thing he’d play his first season at guard RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Gdale_Bengal - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 10:12 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: He's played just as many games with Frank Pollack as Jonah has.Jonah played 700 or more snaps at LT last year and gave up like 2 sacks in his first year. He is an ascending LT right now. Compare that to the other first year LTs and he is better than they are right now. (03-26-2021, 10:28 AM)Hammerstripes Wrote: Give me a break. How many 1st round tackles started last year? How many of them stepped in at 18 years old and played at a high level in a power 5 conference? So I’m assuming you aren’t reading or watching analysts break him down? There are a few who say he’s perfect right now, but there are more who warn against starting him at LT day 1. I read and watch analysts say to start him at guard so he develops more core strength and better opt work and a better pinch placement. Yes, he’s gifted. Yes, I like him and his potential is through the roof! But to throw him at LT day one is asking too much of him right now, IMHO RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Gdale_Bengal - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 11:08 AM)Frank Booth Wrote: Good thing he’d play his first season at guard That’s totally fine. The intent here is get your best 5 on the field and starting Sewell at tackle next year when reiff leaves RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Essex Johnson - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 02:48 AM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: I'd personally be happy with Chase in round 1. When people in the business compare you to Torry Holt, or say that your career could play out like that of a faster Anquan Boldin, that's some pretty high praise. so how did Sewell not look like a pro when he played? .. he was the top lineman his sophomore year, and both Chase and Sewell are born in 2000 so really no real age difference between them RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - Essex Johnson - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 11:12 AM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: Jonah played 700 or more snaps at LT last year and gave up like 2 sacks in his first year. He is an ascending LT right now. Compare that to the other first year LTs and he is better than they are right now. I don;t think we can ever say any college player is pro ready, I would question Chase is not pro ready since he has not experienced a NFL defense that is much better and different than college or a NFL playbook..... Both are talented and expected to be starters in their 1st year of NFL RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - GreenCornBengal - 03-26-2021 Perhaps Burrow thinks with a 3rd reliable weapon on WR that he will be able to get the ball out quicker reducing the times he is hit. He held onto the ball a little long at times last year. The blame gets out solely on the line but wrs not getting open paired with a QB who is always looking for the big play is a recipe for a lot of QB hits. Get chase, take a guard in the 2nd. The thing is, I’d this was Bill B and the Pats, they would find a way to fix their line with undrafted rookies and castoffs... why are we unable to do this as well? (Yes it’s because we have ZT not BB, that IS the answer, but point is we shouldn’t have to rely on Sewell to fix everything). Just my 2 cents RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - kalibengal - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 07:52 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Jonah is unreliable and will get hurt again. If Sewell is there at 5, he will (or at least should) start Day 1. I think some of us have forgotten about Fred ....he looked solid at tackle when Jonah went down again. Not worried there Im more worried about G and C. RE: Report: Burrow pushing for Bengals to draft Chase - TheLeonardLeap - 03-26-2021 (03-26-2021, 12:03 PM)kalibengal Wrote: I think some of us have forgotten about Fred ....he looked solid at tackle when Jonah went down again. Not worried there Except he didn't look solid. I know there's a lot of distrust about PFF on here, and I don't fully disagree, but it is an interesting reference point. Fred Johnson had a 48.4 PFF score in 2020. He was their 79th out of 79 OTs. |