(04-13-2021, 05:35 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Whoever came up with that plan should be fired. Or Burrow gets one free shot at hitting then in their nuts.

(04-13-2021, 05:27 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Side note..  Is it just me, or is anyone else's mind conditioned to automatically read that as WTF when they see it?

(04-13-2021, 05:32 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: Yup.  But when it comes the WFT WTF is very appropriate


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(04-13-2021, 05:41 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I have come to just call them DC. 

Not because of any wistfulness of their old name, but simply because their new name is absolutely stupid, long, sounds like it belongs in MLS, and the only one that doesn't follow the naming convention of the NFL.

(04-13-2021, 06:02 PM)lone bengal Wrote: Big picture Williams is the only good young lineman we have and he's played 10 games in two years. Hopkins was average at best an he's coming of a week 17 ACL and Price is a 1st round bust going into year 4. The guard position is brutal too XSF was a backup with Dallas and the 5 games he played for us he didn't pass the eye test for me and PFF had him at a 59.1 overall. I think Spain is slightly below average on a good day. Need to draft multiple lineman in my opinion if the value is there.

(04-13-2021, 06:12 PM)ochocincos Wrote: From what I recall, I believe he could have played some toward the end of 2019, but there was no real reason to given the team's record and wanting to hold onto the 1st overall pick. As such, they chose to leave him on IR.
I don't really count his rookie year at all, since that seemed to be a team decision to get his shoulder surgery for long-term purposes.
And when looking at his 2020 injury, I wouldn't really say it's because he's "injury prone."
He got his right knee taken out from behind as the QB stepped up in the pocket.
Those kinds of injuries can happen whether you're "injury-prone" or not.

(04-13-2021, 07:13 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: If we can make it through the season without Jordan seeing the field that’s going to be extremely beneficial to our entire offense. He is so, so bad.

(04-13-2021, 07:18 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Like to see us add enough depth to the OL group that we just cut him. 

He is just brutal.

(04-13-2021, 02:49 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: How many of these are on the OL for blown assignment or the QB for holding the ball to long?  do they have that break down? or sacks within 2.5 seconds

(04-13-2021, 07:36 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Saw somewhere that said PFF has 9 sacks attributed to Joe Burrow.

So ~28% of the sacks Burrow took were his own fault according to them. The OL was terrible and I don't like Taylor's offense, but that's way too many unnecessary sacks taken by a QB. 

Hopefully it was just him being a rookie and he cleans it up rather than following the Andrew Luck path.

(04-13-2021, 07:36 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Saw somewhere that said PFF has 9 sacks attributed to Joe Burrow.

So ~28% of the sacks Burrow took were his own fault according to them. The OL was terrible and I don't like Taylor's offense, but that's way too many unnecessary sacks taken by a QB. 

Hopefully it was just him being a rookie and he cleans it up rather than following the Andrew Luck path.

(04-13-2021, 07:56 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Burrow definitely needs to cut down the coverage sacks, but almost anyone is going to be an upgrade over last year’s version of AJ. So hopefully having a better starting WR will help a lot with that.

(04-13-2021, 08:00 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Ehh. Hard to say. He may eliminate a few of those but that’s just the type of player he is I think. He is going to keep fighting to make a play. And I would rather not coach that out of him.

(04-13-2021, 08:06 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: True. A younger WR core should help along with better blocking and a run game.


That one play he made last year was ridiculous where he made multiple Defenders miss and hit Tee on the sideline...

Special quality, agree, don't want that stuff coached out of him.

(04-13-2021, 08:15 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Also, the play against Tennessee where he juked about 5 guys and almost ran for the first himself. I’ll take some occasional sacks to get stuff like that.

(04-13-2021, 09:55 PM)J24 Wrote: We can talk about pass blocking all we want but run blocking was just as bad. The IOL has to be fixed. If we can run the ball on a consistent basis then the passing game will open up.

(04-13-2021, 12:41 PM)Big Boss Wrote: His tweets about Michael Jordan specifically are deeply disturbing.  Led ALL offensive linemen in QB hits allowed.

(04-13-2021, 12:37 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Joe Goodberry posted the following information regarding what each OL allowed in terms of hits and sacks on their QB.

The Bengals OL was charged with 23 sacks last season (PFF)

17 of those sacks are from guys not on the roster or depth players.

— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) April 13, 2021

I can't post his other tweets because he uses the F word in there, so I'll just post the metrics and you can access his twitter for the actual posts.

Williams - 6 hits, 3 sacks
Su'a Filo + Spain - 5 hits, 2 sacks
Hopkins - 1 hit, 1 sack
Reiff - 7 hits, 1 sack

Other guys from last year:
Jordan - 15 hits, 3 sacks (led all guards in QB hits allowed)
Hart - 8 hits, 4 sacks
Redmond - 2 hits, 3 sacks
Johnson - 5 hits, 2 sacks
Adeniji - 2 hits, 4 sacks

(04-13-2021, 10:57 PM)PDub80 Wrote: ^ Brilliance and makes me even more on team Chase. Not even a single doubt in my mind at this point.

I wouldn't even be made w a RB, TE, Edge, or whatever in the 2nd and then someone like Creed Humphry in the 3rd, or the OT, Hudson from UC. Lots of options. Some of these top O line guys will fall out of round 2 into the 3rd or even 4th. It is a DEEP O line class.