(06-07-2021, 02:45 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Tate may be more limited in where he can play, but Boyd is very versatile and I believe Higgins and Chase are (or can be) as well.
I'd think Tate can play either outside spot if called upon.
I'd prefer Trent Taylor in the backup slot role over Thomas. He's had 79 rec for 731 yards and 3 TDs across 3 seasons.
There are also other WRs to add in FA still who would be an improvement over Thomas.
Thomas is really just a ST guy in my eyes.

(06-07-2021, 12:36 PM)jason Wrote: For real.... Mayweather is better than this. He should be anyway.

(06-07-2021, 03:23 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: This thread is in Jungle Noise so I decided against the long rant, but you're exactly right. All this talk of "Chad held his own in the ring" or "Paul went the distance with Mayweather" that you see on social media is asinine. If Maxwell wanted to drop Chad in the first, he would have. He let him know that much in round 4. Mayweather literally held up a knocked out Paul.

Power to all of them. They made boatloads of money for minutes of glorified sparring on PPV. But take as much stock in Chad's prowess as a fighter from this fight as you do from him hitting his ex-wife.


I thought the same of Mayweather when he became more concerned about protecting his unblemished record than fighting actual contenders. 

But now being retired from real boxing? Go get that money. The guy just took home 30+ million to carry a guy eight rounds. I can't hate 'em for that.

(06-07-2021, 10:16 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Ed "Too Tall" Jones (6'9", 275) was one of the greatest all-around athletes ever.  He started out as a basketball player at Tennessee State but after two years switched to football to play DE..  He was so talented that he was the first overall pick of the 1974 NFL draft.  After just 5 seasons he quit football to become a professional fighter.  He claimed boxing had always been his favorite sport. Even though he fought a bunch of nobodies I remember his fights being televised just because he was a famous NFL player.  He never lost a fight as a pro, but he was never considered that good.  After two years of boxing he went back to the NFL and finished an incredible career.  He played until he was 38 years old and never missed a game with injury.  He was 3 times Pro Bowl and First Team All-Pro once. 

(06-07-2021, 04:22 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: People will scoff at this, but tbh he probably would be better than our depth guys. Both he and TO look like they could still play. Obviously they wouldn't be stars...but as depth guys who could get you 20 catches in a season? Sure. The NFL just won't give old guys a shot for some reason. Maybe it'd just reek of desperation.

(06-07-2021, 09:48 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Agree, but most likely because aging stars would want way more money than a 4 or 5 WR is worth paying. 

(06-06-2021, 09:38 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Chad Johnson is 43 years old and is fighting a guy who fights professionally in Bare Knuckle Boxing.  That's pretty impressive in my book.

(06-06-2021, 10:23 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: That wuss refused to fight Pacman 'cuz he was afraid he'd get shot if he won...


In all seriousness, Chad was on Movin' The Chains talking about the fight and was asked if he thought he might try to do it again if he wins.  His response was it would be incredibly disrespectful to all of the professional fighters out there for him to try and step in at this point in time and try to make a career out of it.  He stated that his offseason training included soccer and boxing going all the way back to college, and that is the only reason he is stepping into the ring right now: a once in a lifetime opportunity to use that training in a way that will benefit a cause.  Gotta give him a ton of props for that answer...

(06-07-2021, 11:51 AM)PDub80 Wrote: Regarding WR depth..

- I have high hopes for Mike Thomas being a good #4, but Tate looks to be more of a specific scenario type of player.

- The kid from SF, Taylor, has some potential behind Boyd. He had a very good rookie season and then just fizzled out of San Fran. I know he was out 2019 with injury, but that doesn't explain the drop in targets and production...

ROOKIE 2017: 60 targets & 43 catches 
2018: 41 & 26
2019: DNP INJURED
2020: 21 targets for 10 catches

^ I'm sure missing 2019 put Taylor behind and the 49ers found a strong replacement and Taylor just didn't have a place.

- The intriguing guy to me is Scotty Washington. As a developmental guy to see out there, I'm hoping he can really grow and learn with the guys on the roster. I think the pace and expectations will be high from the Bengals top 3 and, as the saying goes, iron sharpens iron.

- My hopes and dreams involve CJ & Sample becoming very viable targets, limiting the use of 11 personnel and allowing for more 12 sets (2 TEs) and a more prominently featured rushing attack.


^ If fully healthy, this leaves limited roles for Thomas, Tate, Taylor, & Washington to where maybe they are just there for rotational use. At 43, could Chad take the pounding of a possession receiver? I have no doubts he could get open on shorter routes and still catch. But the play to play beating is my question.

Really curious as to what the Bengals 5 wide ends up looking like. Will that be based on the scenarios like down and distance? Or will it be a reliable same 5 guys? Right now it would probably be the big 3 and Thomas + Tate? or would a TE (or 2) be tossed in instead? An RB (Evans? Mixon?).

I appreciate Taylor having a super flexible offense... but at what point do the Bengals declare who and what they really are as an offensive unit? Jack of all trades, masters of none?

(06-07-2021, 11:25 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Probably true in many cases, but Chad did play in Canada for peanuts, and TO signed a small contract with us in 2010. With those particular guys, it could be that the media hoopla wouldn't be worth it for a 5-6 WR.

(06-07-2021, 08:00 PM)AussieBengal Wrote: That is pretty much what happens with a lot of Rugby League players here in Australia, their pay for view fights bring in a lot of money because they have made a name for themselves in Rugby League. The ones with a controversial rep do this best because a lot of people tune in to watch them get knocked out lol. 

Anthony Mundine was a big mouthed Rugby League player who started out boxing that way, his father was a very well respected boxer here in Australia. Anthony went on to win 3 world titles.

(06-06-2021, 09:36 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: [img]

Chad Johnson lands some clean shots on Maxwell ? @ochocinco

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— FOX Sports: PBC (@PBConFOX) June 7, 2021

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(06-08-2021, 12:51 PM)Dr.Z Wrote: Wow, hadn't heard Mundine mentioned in a while.  Despite his controversial nature, he is definitely one of the best crossover athletes I've seen.  I remember that ridiculous Danny Green fight with the non-disqualification in the first followed by the bs scorecards after the bout.