(06-30-2021, 01:32 PM)Au165 Wrote: He also hired Rob Chudzinski as the Browns Head Coach and drafted Barkevious Mingo 6th overall. Not saying the guy is wrong but he hit a pretty big iceburg when he was given the keys to drive.

(06-30-2021, 09:01 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: You think Lombardi has as bad a track record as Zac?  Why?

---He's been on staff for 3 Super Bowl wins. 

---He's worked with Bill Walsh, Al Davis, and Bill Belichick

----He was 2nd in command to Al Davis when they last made a Superbowl appearance, and they won the AFC West in 3 consecutive years. 

----He worked with Bill Belichick in both Cleveland and New England. 

---Belichick described him as so: "Mike's...one of the smartest people I've worked with. He was huge asset to me for the two years he was here...he studies football and he knows it very well."

---Bill Walsh is the one who gave him his first job, and he is credited with discovering Charles Haley.

----He had a 32 year long career in the NFL (Idiots and losers don't last 3 decades in this league.)

Look, I know you're angry and I know his statements struck a nerve.  But don't let hurt feelings cause you to embarrass yourself with ridiculous statements.  Comparing someone with the resume outlined above to a coach who has gone 6-25-1 is just crazy talk.

(06-30-2021, 12:41 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/9/3/16249726/former-nfl-gm-doug-pederson-head-coach-philadelphia-eagles-mike-lombardi-carson-wentz-ringer-video

If Lombardi's sad reputation couldn't be any more attacked...

Last time I'm saying it; I'm not at all saying there isn't some merit to his comments, but this is BEYOND the kettle calling the pot black.

(06-30-2021, 09:38 AM)PDub80 Wrote: BTW, I was done with Marvin after the 2007 season after watching him struggle to get better or progress with a team who was in their absolute prime. Marvin Lewis had peaked by the end of 2007 and we saw his issues with mental preparedness and fortitude by then (proceedural problems and dead ball penalties). Letting a dumpy Browns team compete with them, collapses late in the season when the games mattered to make the playoffs, massive in-game leads vanished, repeatedly having the same issues on the field (missed/poor tackling was an issue for many seasons), etc etc. These issues plagued Marvin throughout his tenure in Cincinnati over the next 10+ years. I have no problem calling a spade a spade. I just don't think Zac Taylor's been given the proper amount of time to grow into the position - which we all should have known was going to take time.

(06-30-2021, 01:52 AM)Brandon00151 Wrote: I think anything short of playoffs should get him fired.

(06-29-2021, 08:52 PM)GodFather Wrote: https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/former-nfl-executive-zac-taylor-not-qualified-to-be-head-coach-of-the-bengals

Lombardi not holding back, imagine what he would say about clueless Lou?

(07-01-2021, 12:16 AM)bengalfreak Wrote: Bad hire two years ago, bad hire now. Who hires an entire coaching staff with almost no experience doing what you are hiring them to do? Still shaking my head two years later. Taylor could've had Jack DelRio as his DC but he was a bad fit for the culture. 

(07-01-2021, 12:20 AM)Bengalitis Wrote: They never released their salary, must be one of the lowest in the NFL for a head coach, by a lot perhaps too. who knows.

(06-30-2021, 11:15 PM)ezekiel23 Wrote: Zac Taylor has had his share of uphill battles trying to put together a winning formula. It’s not all his fault for the lack of success he’s had so far.

(06-30-2021, 10:38 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Except since it's Mike Brown, it's probably just 6-7 wins to keep his job.

(07-01-2021, 12:30 AM)2MinutesHate Wrote: It's already looking pretty shaky when all he does to protect JB is to bring in Reiff and draft Carman.  Not exactly going all out, is it?

(06-29-2021, 09:06 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Whether there's merit to the notion or not, Lombardi is an idiot, a loser and has arguably as bad a track record as Zac, if not worse.

And he's a Sewell guy, so that's definitely skewing it.

Again, not saying there isn't merit, but look at who's making the comment; If Belicheck or Walsh said it, then I'd listen.

(07-01-2021, 01:05 AM)sandwedge Wrote: This whole thread sounds like Cleveland back in 1995, when they fired a "in over his head" coach named Bill...

(07-01-2021, 01:05 AM)sandwedge Wrote: This whole thread sounds like Cleveland back in 1995, when they fired a "in over his head" coach named Bill...

(07-01-2021, 10:10 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: Dude lets not compare Zach who hasnt been able to coach his way out of a wet paper bag to the coach with the most hardware of the modern era.