(09-09-2021, 10:03 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: This is off a quick glance, but Herbert was ahead of Burrow by about 20 YPG (289 to 268) last season. Burrow took a hit there because of the WFT game but Herbert also played 15 games, which boosts his ‘per game’ numbers.

Herbert had higher rating, yards per game, touchdowns per game, higher completion percentage and a bunch of other stats such as yards per attempt etc. He also scored five touchdowns rushing.

Herbert was really, really good last season.

(09-10-2021, 08:47 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: they also dont have 8 losses on their record.

(09-10-2021, 12:00 PM)jj22 Wrote: So I guess the argument that Herbert should have been the pick is gaining steam....

(09-10-2021, 08:47 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: they also dont have 8 losses on their record.

(09-10-2021, 12:00 PM)jj22 Wrote: So I guess the argument that Herbert should have been the pick is gaining steam....

(09-10-2021, 12:35 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Honestly it would not have mattered one bit in 2020 who the Bengals lined up behind center: Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Peyton Manning, or Johnny Unitas back from the dead.

(09-10-2021, 12:46 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Maybe, maybe not.  I recall thinking the Bengals should have traded down and gathered talent to put around Rex Grossman or  Kyle Boller rather than taking Palmer at #1 overall...in hindsight what would we have lost?  Two miserable playoff losses in the first round?  Who knows...and that's the issue.  We can only speculate. 

(09-09-2021, 10:35 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: *lazy points. What's logical about ignorance?


No one needs to say they'll be fine, that's a bit extreme and illogical. Do a little homework though and at least have a clue what you're writing about. 

(09-09-2021, 10:40 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: LOL. 

Jameis Winston
3 rookies that haven't played in the NFL yet
Daniel Jones
Carson Wentz
Tua

All ahead of Burrow. superlulz

Burrow should be right around 17ish.

(09-09-2021, 11:11 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: So up till the injury, Burrow was getting glowing reports and was considered the frontrunner for RoY by pretty much everyone, on a bad team. 

They added a quality vet at RT to match the quality LT (notice there's no hyperbole here--just 2 solid, better than average tackles). They have two Gs that protected the QB well the 2nd half of the year last year, during the several games they were able to play while healthy. They have 2 young Gs as backups that are easily better than what they trotted out there the last couple years. They have a top 5 passblocking C. Yes, past injuries are a concern with 3 of the 5, but that part about seeing it during the season applies here too. Until they get injured, it's not a problem this year. 

He talked about his lack of arm strength. There's quanifiable proof as well as anecdotal evidence--from the players themselves--that his ball has more zip. 

He (Rosenthal) is "speculating" about all 32 QBs, so the speculation on Burrow isn't any different than on any other QB. 

The bottom line is, if you're going to step in the kitchen and start cooking (writing articles/giving your opinion) you damn well better be able to take the heat when you don't bother doing any homework or put any effort into providing context on bad, lazy takes. 

I'm not taking anything too seriously. I'm commenting on a bad take and providing examples of where he's wrong. I really don't care how the national media sees the Bengals. The Bengals haven't given anyone reason to be positive over the last 5 years and especially the last 2. The QBs i named in another post, that are above Burrow, are simply laughable based on pure talent, ability and past results alone. 

If i were going to create a thread on here about another team's QB, you better believe i'm going to do some research on him and not just spew 'hot takes' based on what i've seen in the past. I don't think that's too much to ask of a national writer. 

To put a nice bow on all this, journalism these days isn't really journalism anymore. It's just shitty hot takes for clicks and Rosenthal is a guy that likes to hog the bathroom. 

(09-10-2021, 01:46 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: They would have brought in someone else for QB though, because I would literally give up an entire draft worth of picks to not have to watch Ryan Finley QB for an entire 16 game season. Lol

(09-10-2021, 01:46 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: They would have brought in someone else for QB though, because I would literally give up an entire draft worth of picks to not have to watch Ryan Finley QB for an entire 16 game season. Lol

(09-10-2021, 01:52 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Wait, I thought I was talking about 2003....or are we talking about trading down in 2020?

Yeah, if we trade down in 2020 we get Miami's 4th overall pick and other 1st rounders etc and we can take any of the other QBs.  That's the thing, we could have had Herbert and "a buncha picks" so Burrow has to be better than the rest of his QB class plus what people think we could have gotten with Miami's 1st rounders.

(09-09-2021, 02:55 PM)jj22 Wrote: Burrow not getting any respect. Can we still consider him a media darling?

https://www.nfl.com/news/qb-index-week-1-ranking-all-32-starters-entering-2021-nfl-season

Bengals Twitter is all up in arms.

I find it fascinating national media has Burrow so far behind Herbert in general. I know Herbert had a great (healthy) year, but it's becoming not even close in the eyes of the pundits. You'd think Burrow was a bust.

(09-10-2021, 03:10 PM)DesertBengal Wrote: As a Bengals fan you come to expect a certain amount of disrespect and general lack of informed takes from the National Media...  And you develop a thick skin about for it.  But this QB Index is just plain irritating.  

Ranking rookies, who haven't played a live snap above Burrow is pure disrespect.