(09-13-2021, 11:17 AM)Sanforbd Wrote: I’ve sold real estate on the Southside for 15 years, worst neighborhoods in the country, never been harmed or threatened. But solid narrative.

(09-13-2021, 09:52 AM)Awful Llama Wrote: People may think this was an exaggeration, but they nailed the Bears fans.  I've experienced them on many an occasion at games up in Detroit.  They're obese, mustachioed, drunken fools who bray endlessly and wreak of onions and "sassages."  The SNL skits were kind.  

(09-13-2021, 01:41 AM)Joelist Wrote: So we now go to Chicago (I live here, it is a crap city) to face off with the Bears. Compared to the Vikings there are some similarities and some differences:

1) Bears OL is suspect - Peters got hurt tonight as did another Tackle.

2) Montgomery is a VERY underrated back.

3) The Bears defensive front is decent but not as strong as Minnesotas.

4) They have speed at WR but no one like Jefferson; they are stacked at TE though.

5) As tonight showed, they are VERY susceptible to big pass plays.

Assuming we clean up the blocking back issue, the offense should be able to run and pass on them and score. Defensively if we have a DL performance like we did today the Bears will be stymied offensively. And of course, the big thing will be Zac Taylor vs. Matt Nagy. Will Zac actually call a good game? Only the future knows...

(09-13-2021, 10:03 AM)Sled21 Wrote: That's mentality my friend. The mentality brought here by the likes of Vonn Bell, Trey Hendrickson, Mike Hilton and Jessie Bates. There is no quit in these guys. We've all seen Bengals defenses under Marvin that would have folded after the 4th down failure and resulting change of momentum. Not this one, Bengals Defense is going to be the talk of the NFL in the next few weeks. When Waynes comes out and replaces Apple, it will only be better. And for those who lamented getting rid of Lawson, while I liked Carl, I predicted he would be injured this year and Hendrickson is as advertised.... He was a complete beast yesterday.

(09-13-2021, 01:41 AM)Joelist Wrote: So we now go to Chicago (I live here, it is a crap city) to face off with the Bears. 

(09-13-2021, 07:10 AM)SladeX Wrote: I grew up in Evanston. No love for the North? 

(09-13-2021, 10:28 AM)Nately120 Wrote: I lived in Chicago and I'm fine...maybe I am a true badass?

(09-13-2021, 11:17 AM)Sanforbd Wrote: I’ve sold real estate on the Southside for 15 years, worst neighborhoods in the country, never been harmed or threatened. But solid narrative.

(09-13-2021, 10:03 AM)Sled21 Wrote: We've all seen Bengals defenses under Marvin that would have folded after the 4th down failure and resulting change of momentum. Not this one, 

(09-13-2021, 01:54 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Please, for the love of god, stop with these silly comments.

Immediately after that 4th down failure the Bengals defense gave up 30 yards and a td in just 4 plays.  Next Viking possession they drove 65 yards on 11 plays for another td.  Then when we had the Vikings pinned at their own 5 yard line with less than 2 minutes left our defense let them drive for the game-tying score. 

I do not want to bash our current defense.  They played better than I expected and helped us win the game.  But it is silly to compare this defense to the top units under Marvin.

(09-13-2021, 12:47 PM)740Bengal Wrote: Taylor vs Nagy... Lol what a matchup.

(09-13-2021, 09:31 AM)Takedown Wrote: We stopped Cook, we'll stop Montgomery. I'm worried about their TE's and Fields packages.

(09-13-2021, 01:38 PM)SHRacerX Wrote: I think Lawson could have been a part of this group, as he seemed to be a team-guy (but as you pointed out, was oft-injured and Hendrickson is a durable as a clydesdale.   But your overall point is dead on.

I will add that eliminating guys like Dunlap and maybe even WJIII (who quickly fired shots at the organization when he left), has left a group of guys that are dialed in to winning and have that relentless motor.  

Defense was my biggest question mark heading in to this season, but that was a nice start to showing they are heading in the right direction.  

Even though Apple had a couple struggles, I feel a lot better with him and Phillips as the depth pieces compared to a year ago.  

(09-13-2021, 02:57 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Please, for the love of God, stop with these silly comments without actually reading a post.  Did I say the top Marvin defenses? I said we've all seen defenses under Marvin that completely folded when adversity hit. If you don't agree with that, you must have missed a few years of football.

(09-14-2021, 09:48 AM)Sled21 Wrote: True, I really liked Lawson, my only complaint with him is if you go back through his professional and college years, he seems to be on an injury schedule. He was due to be injured this year, and has been. It's just crap luck. 

As to Dunlap and WJIII, yeah, while I would not go so far as to say they were a locker room cancer their last year here, they definitely were malcontents. I found Bate's comments very interesting.  He talks about how smart the new free agents and draft picks are, and how Lou has an open door and communicates very well what he wants, and every single one of them have bought it.  Maybe certain ex players just weren't smart enough to grasp what they were asked to do, and that's why they were unhappy. Dunlap was unhappy in this system, Hendrickson and Hubbard are on fire with it. And all the DT's, even the brand new guy, are getting after it. Larry O said in his interview when asked about Hill's 2 sacks after just getting here, and he said "a players going to play regardless"

(09-13-2021, 08:59 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Nagy made the playoffs twice with Mitch Trubisky as his QB.  I ain't saying he's Bill Walsh, but the guy has done something to separate himself from ZT.

(09-14-2021, 11:14 AM)fredtoast Wrote: You missed my main point. Our defense DID collapse after that 4th down play. They allowed the Vikes to score on 3 of their last 4 drives (including one starting at their own 5 yard line with less than 2 minutes left) and completely blew a 14 point lead.

And if you were just talking about prior Bengal defenses in general why mention Marvin Lewis? We saw more sustain defensive success under Lewis than any coach in Bengal history.

(09-13-2021, 01:46 AM)Sanforbd Wrote: A shit city? Chicago is one of the best cities in the world. I’d slit my wrist before I’d move back to Ohio.