(03-14-2022, 12:02 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: they have had 3 years now

(03-14-2022, 12:02 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Reiff was neither unproven, nor mediocre. He was an average OT.

(03-14-2022, 12:04 PM)Au165 Wrote: That's fine...still doesn't mean they are getting from where they are at this moment to where they want to be in 1 from here. Carman will be in the plan a draft pick taken this year will be in the future plan. People thinking they are buying 4 brand new o linemen in FA will be disappointed. 

(03-14-2022, 12:02 PM)Au165 Wrote: Riley Reiff is not even remotely in the same category as the other two.

(03-14-2022, 12:04 PM)Au165 Wrote: That's fine...still doesn't mean they are getting from where they are at this moment to where they want to be in 1 from here. Carman will be in the plan a draft pick taken this year will be in the future plan. People thinking they are buying 4 brand new o linemen in FA will be disappointed. 

(03-14-2022, 12:08 PM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: Mediocre is a synonym for average

(03-14-2022, 12:10 PM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: Nobody was beating down doors to sign him besides us

(03-14-2022, 10:38 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I went with a "No" vote for two reasons:

1) We've had good free agency signings in the Duke/Zac era as exemplified by signing Reader and Hendrickson; maybe such success will strike again this week.

2) I've tempered my expectations by not thinking we'll make a big name splash for the OL or other positions. Last year, fans drummed up hype of wanting Thuney and it didn't happen. I don't think the Bengals will roll up the vault truck for any free agent (this is subjective, I know because Hendrickson made bank; I'm referring to making someone the highest paid FA ever type of thing). Thus, I enter today and this week expecting to be patient as the FA process unfolds.

(03-14-2022, 12:43 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Perfectly said. No sense in getting your panties in a wad over stuff you cant control.

(03-14-2022, 12:14 PM)GodFather Wrote: The only plan Carman has this offseason is hitting every all you can buffet in the area.


I don't have any faith in him. He has a history of not working hard and relying on his natural talents and that's not going to fly in the NFL like in college and high school. 

So he better not be in the plan for starting..

(03-14-2022, 12:44 PM)Au165 Wrote: He was a rookie...playing a new position...on the opposite side he had ever played on. Expecting any sort of great performance from that was expecting a lot. They simply aren't going to bail one year in, it just doesn't make sense unless they think his injury is worse than thought or he's an asshole. 

(03-14-2022, 12:14 PM)GodFather Wrote: The only plan Carman has this offseason is hitting every all you can buffet in the area.


I don't have any faith in him. He has a history of not working hard and relying on his natural talents and that's not going to fly in the NFL like in college and high school. 

So he better not be in the plan for starting..

(03-14-2022, 10:38 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I went with a "No" vote for two reasons:

1) We've had good free agency signings in the Duke/Zac era as exemplified by signing Reader and Hendrickson; maybe such success will strike again this week.

2) I've tempered my expectations by not thinking we'll make a big name splash for the OL or other positions. Last year, fans drummed up hype of wanting Thuney and it didn't happen. I don't think the Bengals will roll up the vault truck for any free agent (this is subjective, I know because Hendrickson made bank; I'm referring to making someone the highest paid FA ever type of thing). Thus, I enter today and this week expecting to be patient as the FA process unfolds.

(03-13-2022, 09:21 PM)Bengalpool Wrote: Correct. I believe a lot of us have set ourselves up for disappointment by telling each other that guys will come here on a discount, guys will have their agents calling the Bengals up cause they wanna play with Burrow, etc. And that may be the case. 

Just remember (talking to myself here too), the Bengals are not going to roll in the brinks truck for Armstead, JCJ, etc. They will target tier 2, tier 3 guys. If we're lucky, we pull off that trade with DAL. That would be the move of the off season imo.

(03-14-2022, 01:46 PM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: I want to change my vote yes but want to change it to no based on a hour in with Kappa

(03-14-2022, 01:48 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: I think you are mainly correct, but Jensen was a tier 1 guy in my book. Though certainly not $20  million.  Hendrickson & Reader were certainly Tier 1 FAs at their positions. We have signed 3 $13 million dollar guys in the last two years, I would not rule out a big (ish) fish this time. Not Armstead or Jackson, but a half step below. 

(03-14-2022, 01:51 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: People have mentioned voting can only be changed on mobile devices and not from pcs. Maybe the OP didn't give the option to change votes since it was meant as a predictor?

(03-14-2022, 01:42 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I suspect his conditioning and weight was due to recovering from back surgery. I have wondered if his back injury at the end of the season was a new injury or if this is the beginning of chronic problems.

But, I think how he entered training camp last season was understandable given the situation.