(02-02-2023, 05:54 PM)Synric Wrote: They were talking about it on the Pat Macafee show. Pretty much whenever they bring up Lamar Jackson.

(02-02-2023, 05:43 PM)Synric Wrote: You aren't getting it. The Ravens would have to Non Exclusive Franchise Tag Lamar Jackson the most a team has to give up for Jackson is 2 first round picks.

All a trade would do is trade the no exclusive franchise tag rights which still means any team in the NFL can win Lamar if they are willing to give up the most money and 2 first round picks.

(02-02-2023, 05:55 PM)casear2727 Wrote: "The Ravens and Jackson would likely need to work together on a trade because an offer sheet is prohibited with the exclusive designation. Written permission would have to be granted by the Ravens for Jackson to legally talk to other teams because Baltimore would hold his exclusive rights.

Jackson would probably be allowed to negotiate a contract with serious suitors while the Ravens figured out the trade compensation with those teams."

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-has-lamar-jackson-played-final-game-with-ravens-how-team-can-deal-with-soon-to-be-free-agent-qb/

(02-03-2023, 10:21 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I don't think the Ravens want Lamar back. He's expensive, and they just cut the OC who designed the offense around Lamar's skillset. If they planned on keeping Lamar, they would have kept Roman. On the flip side, I think Lamar wants to go to the NFC. If he stays in the AFCN, he has to compete against Burrow and Watson and Pickett every year for the division, and the rest of the AFC, including Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, etc., should the Rats make the playoffs.

The NFC South doesn't even have a quarterback in the whole division. Tampa had Brady, he retired. NO has Dalton and Winston, so Dalton basically, and AD is AD. Panthers have Sam Darnold... yawn. And Atlanta has Mariota. Lamar wins that division all by himself. Then when you get to conference play you have Geno smith, Daniel Jones, Jared Goff, Justin Fields, Trey Lance, Carson Wentz (maybe) Hurts, Cousins, Murray (who knows when he will be back, Prescott, Stafford and Rodgers. Not exactly the murderers row the AFC has. Lamar's path back to the Super Bowl is a whole lot easier if he switches to the NFC. 

(02-01-2023, 03:11 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Call me crazy, but Hurts is not as good of a passer as the top guys in the AFC - Burrow, Mahomes, Allen.
I'd take any of them over Hurts.

Just like I thought with Denver getting Wilson, I don't think the Jets magically improve a ton after a season with double-digit losses by getting a new QB.
They might get 2-3 more wins, but that's not really contender-level.

(02-01-2023, 04:05 PM)Joelist Wrote: I'd actually contend the opposite - Lamar KEEPS THEM from being a real threat. His lack of real touch and general issues operating a passing offense from the pocket have held their offense back for years, as has the need to have an eccentric custom offense modeled around him. 

If the Rats do the right thing, they dump Lamar and reconfigure the offense back into something more rational. Either draft a QB high or use the "Lamar money" to bring in a legit starter as a Free Agent. Then get more receivers. 

(02-01-2023, 04:30 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Well threat I’d disagree elite I would agree. Having a great QB is pretty important. SF seems the outlier. Philly may not have an elite passer in Hurts but his running makes up for it so he’s pretty elite. If they dump Lamar it’s not a given by any means they fare better. JMO but I’m a lot less concerned about Baltimore than I was last year at this time. It all depends what happens at QB.

(02-02-2023, 05:46 PM)Synric Wrote: They can be traded under the non exclusive not the exclusive which is what makes the Lamar Jackson situation so weird.

(02-03-2023, 12:04 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I'd take Hurts over Allen. I don't trust either of them on a 10 year deal because running QBs will always start to physically break down, but Allen just isn't accurate enough and makes way too many turnovers while Hurts is very good and seems to be getting even better.

I wouldn't overlook the Jets. They were 5-2 with a combination of Zach Wilson and Joe Flacco but really didn't have an answer offensively once they lost both Breece Hall and Alijah Vera-Tucker. I wouldn't go as far as saying SB contender, but with them back they have a run game again, and they had a top-5 scoring defense. You add a good/great QB and they're a playoff team at least.


Yeah, I am with you. I have been hoping that they'd sign him for a couple years now because I think it would be the only way to be sure that we don't really have to worry about Baltimore for awhile.


Hurts had two WRs both 4 yards away from being a 1,500 yard receiver and a 1,200 yard receiver. His rushing actually got a little worse this year than '21. It was his evolution as a passer that allowed the Eagles to be a wagon. All of his passing stats are improving immensely each year.

Jackson has only gotten 1 WR to ever reach 800 yards in his career, and the guy requested a trade the next season. He has also never thrown for even 3,200 yards in a season before.

(02-01-2023, 06:06 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Wouldn’t be surprised if they draft a RB and TE as well.

(02-03-2023, 02:25 PM)Graphicguy Wrote: Was just saying this to a colleague a few days ago.  Set aside the recent Mixon news, Bengals could pick up a RB in the draft without seeing much drop off to free up money.  As much as I like Hurst, I always felt he was a short term fix.  Draft a TE and save some money there, too.

If Hurst gives the Bengals a discount given what he’s said regarding how much he likes it here, maybe bring him back on another one year deal.

Would not be surprised to see Boyd become a casualty.  The other “what if”, what if Collins gets an injury settlement and is cut?  I think Apple is all but gone.

Given all the above, now you have some real money to play with to improve through Free Agency!