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RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - Cosmokramer - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 07:31 AM)lone bengal Wrote: My guess is Collins will not be ready to start the year and Williams will play RT. His 5th year option is picked up so he’s not getting cut and his biggest issue is strength can’t see him playing guard. But I think where in a great spot if they keep Collins too. The offensive line has cost this team two Super Bowls. If there is an injury to Brown , Williams can kick to LT we have more depth and better options. Collins could also play guard. Just need to bolster the depth inside in the draft and think we’re in good shape. Collins is gone, too big of a cap hit with last year’s injuries and lackluster performance. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - lone bengal - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 07:33 AM)Cosmokramer Wrote: Collins is gone, too big of a cap hit with last year’s injuries and lackluster performance. I’d be fine either way forgot about Jackson he can be your swing tackle or you can draft one. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - rfaulk34 - 03-16-2023 Collins is very cap friendly and even if you give him 50-75% of the year to come back healthy, he either takes over for someone that's not doing real well or he's available to step in at multiple positions and be light years better than some of the guys coming off the bench the last 2 years. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - kalibengal - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 12:03 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Agreed. Also, remember LC has some experience at guard. We have no backup guards at the moment. what happened to Scharping? RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - Schmitbuck - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 10:47 AM)kalibengal Wrote: what happened to Scharping? He's a free agent. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - tms - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 05:27 AM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. You're going to have a hard time getting a valuable pick for Jonah. I'm guessing if they do trade him, it will be a player for player swap like they did with Price for Hill. I'd keep him for one more year, kind of on a 'prove it' deal. I'd keep LC, also. Nothing wrong with adding quality depth or a new starter in mid to late season, especially one that knows the playbook. Yeah, I don't know anything. I just think it's unlikely we'll move Jonah around the year before he hits free agency. Beauty's in the eye of the beholder and I figure 25-year-old blindside protectors who've played in the Super Bowl- and FWIW, were arguably the best linemen on their teams- will draw interest. He's a bit pricey but even we didn't have a problem with that as recently as... 24 hours ago, really. Or maybe we'll wait until guys start getting hurt and move him then. I don't know. But this idea of chess-piecing linemen is played out to me. It's so much easier said than done. Penei Sewell is a unicorn. We've failed so many times (Carman, Adeniji, Prince, Smith to some extent) that it's equally tempting and inadvisable to try it again. To do so with a man on the verge of getting his bag as a professional left tackle doesn't seem to be in our DNA, either. I expect us to shake hands and part ways as soon as we're able- for his sake as much as ours. But like I said, I don't know anything. Just feeling the vibes. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - Sled21 - 03-16-2023 Well the big thing is it is not like Jr. is an unknown, he's been Mahomes' LT for a few years now. If he can get it done in KC with Mahomes leaving the pocket on most plays, he can get it done in Cincinnati for Burrow. This is an absolute huge signing. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - BIGDADDYFROMCINCINNATI - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 03:46 AM)Bengalholic Wrote: Collins would still count against the cap even if he's on PUP or IR. Yeah, but so what? I still like the idea of having him around for depth after experiencing what we've been through the past couple of years. Collins will be back around mid-year and will be on IR, move to the practice squad until fully 100% then to a backup role. He's very versatile and can play anywhere on the line. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - Nicomo Cosca - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 07:24 AM)Cosmokramer Wrote: We’re gonna need this oline so we can score 35+ a game. Cause that D is gonna give up 30. I have more faith in Lou than that. Especially with DB’s. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - Sled21 - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 11:55 AM)BIGDADDYFROMCINCINNATI Wrote: Yeah, but so what? I still like the idea of having him around for depth after experiencing what we've been through the past couple of years. Collins will be back around mid-year and will be on IR, move to the practice squad until fully 100% then to a backup role. He's very versatile and can play anywhere on the line. Yep, hold on to as much depth as we can. It's been a long two years. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-16-2023 Put me in the camp that says to hold in to as much OL depth as we can. Lack thereof cost us the last two Lombardi's. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - Cosmokramer - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 11:55 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I have more faith in Lou than that. Especially with DB’s. I hope so. I’m upset about losing bell, I loved his all out style, he was a bully, he played mean, i will miss that. Hopefully with the oline, we can establish a dominate run game and slow the game down as well. And maybe open up some play action RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - casear2727 - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 05:43 AM)OSUfan Wrote: I would absolutely cut LC. They can save up to $10 mil in cutting him, depending on timing, with an injury settlement. His back issues continue to be a problem and frankly he did not play well. Jonah is the one that would cost them to cut. If you move Jonah inside per your plan then you have several options at RT to include drafting one. How do you come up with 10M? At RT, LC on one leg is still better than Adeniji & Smith, possibly even Carmen. Jackson & Hakeem both look better on the left. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - casear2727 - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 05:46 AM)OSUfan Wrote: I would love to have Tippmann who frankly could be the best all around lineman in the draft. Having him behind Karras as the heir apparent would be awesome. (03-16-2023, 05:49 AM)pulses Wrote: He's what a 3rd rounder? Tippman would be awesome, there is no way he is there for us in the 3rd round, he's likely the 2nd C drafted. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - casear2727 - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 07:24 AM)Cosmokramer Wrote: We’re gonna need this oline so we can score 35+ a game. Cause that D is gonna give up 30. (03-16-2023, 07:33 AM)Cosmokramer Wrote: Collins is gone, too big of a cap hit with last year’s injuries and lackluster performance. I think both of these statements are way off base. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - Sled21 - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 01:36 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I think both of these statements are way off base. Not to mention very insulting to our D-line, linebackers and corners who are all still here. You'd think we lost them all..... RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - Soonerpeace - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 01:36 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I think both of these statements are way off base. Sure am thankful some of these posters have come out of the woodwork. NOT!!!!!! RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - casear2727 - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 01:46 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Not to mention very insulting to our D-line, linebackers and corners who are all still here. You'd think we lost them all..... Makes zero sense, we have every starter back except 2 safeties, not a difficult positon to fill with a 1st rounder ready to go. This is so uninformed. And people think we can cut LC while he is injured and keep that 7M...that would require losing 2M immediately - 5M for LC to be a backup basically... no brainer. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - casear2727 - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 03:28 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Where does Ben Brown fit in? (03-16-2023, 03:33 AM)pulses Wrote: Maybe he takes Trey Hill's spot (03-16-2023, 03:36 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I think Hill stays at C. I'd have Brown at G and cut Adeniji. Brown can play C and G, could free a spot, especially with us moving from wide-zone to gap. Hill has not shown much. RE: 1st Post-Orlando Brown Hot Take... Jonah... - THE PISTONS - 03-16-2023 (03-16-2023, 01:52 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Makes zero sense, we have every starter back except 2 safeties, not a difficult positon to fill with a 1st rounder ready to go. This is so uninformed. We had backup tackles playing in the playoffs each of the past 2 seasons. IF they can swing having Collins on the roster, you do it. |